Arrow: Star City 2040
March 18, 2019 8:21 PM - Season 7, Episode 16 - Subscribe

Mia and William venture into the Glades on a dangerous mission. There they run into Dinah, Roy, and Zoe who deliver some devastating news. The flash forwards share highlights from Mia's childhood with Felicity.
posted by oh yeah! (6 comments total)
This is my favorite episode of Arrow ever. I really enjoyed it. I did not zone out for half the scenes. I was actually interested in what was going on. It wasn't focusing on shitty villains. Also, except for the opening, Oliver was missing/presumed dead the entire time. Coincidence?

Felicity: not dead and loving it. She's got a slightly shorter haircut and contacts and that is IT for the aging. I like Future Snarky CEO William. And Mia and Connor were dating, apparently?

Nice Nyssa cameo.

Mia: Mommy's looks and Daddy's brains (note: that is not quite as cute as when that was said on Veronica Mars). Sigh. Well, at least her fighting is badass.
posted by jenfullmoon at 8:16 PM on March 19, 2019 [1 favorite]

I liked Felicity's shorter hair. I wish I could pull that look off, but it would require so much product that it just wouldn't be feasible for me.

The aging make-up on her was lighter than Dinah's ,but she definitely spent some tine in the make-up chair. She had some lines around the eyes some age spots and some tightness in the face that seemed to make it difficult for her to fully open her mouth. (I know skin doesn't get tighter when it gets older.I suspect the tightness came from the application of minor make-up prosthetics.)

Glad you enjoyed it jenfullmoon. I really had the opposite reaction. Mia and William had decent sibling chemistry, but I'm just having a hard time buying the vision of the future with corporate entities running cities and cities being walled off from the rest of the country. Maybe that's naive given a certain politician's fixation on walls and on companies like Google trying to take over Toronto, but it just seems like kind of a leap too far. Okay, we know it's Felicity and her AI to blame, so we can handwave that with "TV sci-fi accelerated timelines" but somehow it just seems wrong to me or maybe it just feels out of place in this show. I haven't been too keen on the whole dystopian future that the Arrowverse shows keep delivering but some of them are far enough in the future that I can kind of ignore them. This one is a little too close to the present.

Or maybe it's just me this week being overworked and cranky.
posted by sardonyx at 9:34 PM on March 19, 2019

This episode was great! Imagine if it was the pilot for a new show. I don't really want that show. But it"d work, wouldn't it?

Arrow without Arrrow is pretty good
posted by Nelson at 9:58 PM on March 19, 2019 [1 favorite]

Nelson, I think you've nailed it. It would work as a pilot. It's just not a show I'd be interested in watching.

Actually, with Arrow going off the air and with Flash feeling a bit long in the tooth, maybe that's exactly what's happening. They're doing a back-door pilot to see if they've got an entirely new and cheap (thanks to the unknown talent they can lock into contracts early) replacement waiting in the wings ready to go as soon as a slot on the schedule opens up.
posted by sardonyx at 6:54 AM on March 20, 2019 [2 favorites]

They do seem to have invested a lot in this 2040 setting and characters. OTOH I can't imagine that really selling as a concept, at least not if they don't flesh it out a whole lot more.

I forgot to mention the bright spot of the episode is Blackstar / Mia Smoak, played by Katherine McNamara. Good writing, good acting, even some good fight choreography for her character. I've never heard of the actor before but she has a pretty long resume doing genre productions. Including a starring role on Shadowhunters, 3 seasons of a TV show on the Freeform channel, a lesser-known American cable channel for young adults with origins from the 700 Club (!). Yes, there is middlebrow TV even more low-rent than Arrow.
posted by Nelson at 7:39 AM on March 20, 2019 [1 favorite]

heh, Freeform is also where Cloak & Dagger and Runaways are airing. They're doing well there though.

I thought this episode was a nice break, and give us more focus on the future stuff, which would probably figure into the ending for the series next season.
posted by numaner at 5:15 PM on March 26, 2019

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