Legends of Tomorrow: The Getaway
April 8, 2019 6:43 PM - Season 4, Episode 10 - Subscribe

When Hank commandeers the Waverider in 1973, the Legends find themselves on the run in an RV after kidnapping the president, who is only able to tell the truth. With the help of Constantine, they discover the reason none of them can lie, making for an uncomfortable family road trip. Meanwhile, Nate and Zari, with the help of Nora and Gary, work together to find out what Hank is really up to.
posted by oh yeah! (10 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite
The truth bug was awesome, especially because it was a great bit of misdirection: I thought for sure it would land in Hank, and it was great that it didn't even if it meant he died.

Also, I agree with Sarah's take on family. Fun fact: my personal, semi-joking metric for personal closeness is 'who would I want to kill last if we were stuck together on a desert island?'
posted by mordax at 8:35 PM on April 8, 2019 [1 favorite]

What a waste of a truly complex and interesting character and a really good actor.

Okay, I mean it's probably not a waste from a plot point of view that Hank is dead, but I really enjoyed the episodes with him. The actor always turned what should have been a cardboard character into somebody with true depth. I'm going to miss him.

Speaking of hidden depths, it's always fun when Mick reveals yet another aspect of his highly culture side.

John being the one to reach out to Sara was really nice, especially given their past relationship, and John's own sense of recent heartbreak.

Of course the crew from the diner had to arrive in a particularly apropos car.

I was going to say that Ray has been getting the short shrift of stories and character development, but maybe with Nora on the loose now, that will change. No matter what, good things aren't in store for time-bro-buddies Ray and Nate.

Maybe it's mean to say, but I didn't really miss Charlie either.

As for Mona, I'm still not sure if the trade-off for her is worth it. I mean we had very limited use of Firestorm (presumably) due to budget and F/X challenges. We've had very limited use of the Atom for the same reason. I would have rather had more invested in those two legacy characters than to have resources devoted magical werewolf transformation F/X in the future. I also think the number of main Legends players is getting a bit too unwieldy to add Mona to Waverider crew. I would have preferred her to be kept as a minor player like Gary. She'd have a stronger impact then when she did appear.

Overall, this was a much stronger episode than the last one. Somehow it felt more like the characters were in their elements.
posted by sardonyx at 7:06 PM on April 9, 2019 [3 favorites]

I'm pretty disappointed that Hank is dead, after all the stuff I read previously about how they changed villains because they liked him so much. I really figured he'd last longer.

I enjoyed the hell out of the truth bug.

I still don't know about Mona. Cute and sweet but also making kinda dumb life choices (I guess like Nate when he started?), plus good points about the special effects budget.

In the comments at the AV Club (where the reviewer gets somewhat snitty about being forced to give grades), someone put songs from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend to describe the main characters. Good work!
posted by jenfullmoon at 11:16 PM on April 9, 2019 [4 favorites]

Crazy Ex-Girlfriend plus Legends: I guess I'm off to read the comments.
posted by sardonyx at 6:41 AM on April 10, 2019 [1 favorite]

Nate Heywood:Fit, Hot Guys Have Problems Too.
ROTFLMAO! Way too perfect!
posted by sardonyx at 7:18 AM on April 10, 2019 [2 favorites]

Why is everybody assuming Hank's going to stay dead? From the looks of it he had his soul sucked out by a demon-y guy, which feels to me exactly like the sort of "death" that isn't likely to stay permanent on this show. Unless there's been some announcement about Tom Wilson leaving for other projects that I missed, "that dude killed me!" is exactly the sort of character-development beat that I can see this show using to help get Hank more fully on-board with Team Legends and vice versa.

It does feel like the cast is getting a little overstuffed lately though, so maybe there are some arguments to be made for killing off a few of the bit players.

Maybe it's mean to say, but I didn't really miss Charlie either.

I mean....that was kind of the running gag of the episode, no? Nobody in the show missed Charlie either. It was a pretty funny gag I guess, but again, it's the kind of thing that points to "this cast is overstuffed" but at least it also suggest the writers are aware of it.
posted by mstokes650 at 9:27 AM on April 10, 2019 [3 favorites]

I think Hank's death felt more "real" to me because of the emotional build-up of Nate and Hank trying to get to know each other better this episode. Maybe that's just a writers' ploy to get us more invested in the story, but it did seem like there were going to be consequences that Nate is going to have to face.

It might be interesting to get a Hank back who has been possessed by a demon or set to hell by a devil, or forced to face himself in a limbo environment. That would all certainly work to add extra dimensions to the character. I guess what I'm saying is that I'd be in no way upset about the Legends lending a hand and helping him return to this realm.
posted by sardonyx at 10:05 AM on April 10, 2019 [1 favorite]

Well, they may bring him back in a ghost capacity or something. But soul removed from body means either you put it back ASAP or uh, too late, things started rotting.
posted by jenfullmoon at 3:47 PM on April 10, 2019

Body in magical stasis. Problem solved.

I really liked this one. They managed to balance way hijinks and gut wrenching moments. The part in the car where Nate is getting his dad to give up personal information - and then his dad realizes - OH! I was really hit by that. Also, Sarah barely holding it together. And poor Norah! Story of her life, she tries to help someone and gets fucked over.

"Characters of X show as Crazy Ex Girlfriend songs" is my new favorite meme.
posted by rednikki at 10:41 PM on April 10, 2019 [4 favorites]

I think Hank's death felt more "real" to me because of the emotional build-up of Nate and Hank trying to get to know each other better this episode. Maybe that's just a writers' ploy to get us more invested in the story, but it did seem like there were going to be consequences that Nate is going to have to face.

I think that the point of the Hank being so excited and happy to bond with Nate, and even going so far as to tell the Big Boss that he was done doing shady stuff because he was partnering up with his son now, was to show that Nate's dim view of his dad isn't really warranted. Even after all that bonding and truth-telling, as soon as Zari shows Nate suspicious stuff about Hank, Nate jumps to wholeheartedly believing the worst about Hank again. I think that Nate is probably going to realize that he was being too hard on Hank and/or that Hank is redeemable after all...and because this isn't a very grimdark show, I think that probably, Nate is going to have a second chance at a relationship with Hank after he has that realization. Or at least I hope so!

This episode was pretty fun -- I especially loved Zari's Radio Voice and the Cockroach of Truth zooming all over the RV. I wish that the truths that the characters were forced to say had been more interesting, though. Also, I would have liked to hear what Charlie would have had to say if the bug had gotten into her, because she's sort of the most enigmatic character on the show. Not that any of them are that enigmatic, but you know. I was kind of disappointed that she was the one who was left out. Although the "we forgot Charlie!" gag was pretty funny. Especially because until the characters shouted that periodically, I kept forgetting all about her, too.

By the way, what is up with Nate being so neurotic about Hank all the time? I mean, he has the whole shtick about refusing to call Hank "dad" and in this episode he was shocked that he said that he loved him because "years of therapy" hadn't even been enough to get him to do that before, etc? It's so weird that Nate makes such a big deal about having issues with his dad, because pretty much whenever Hank is onscreen, he acts like a loving and responsible father and it's like, what's Nate's problem? Don't get me wrong, I kind of enjoy that Nate has this bizarre hangup because him being a little bit nuts is humanizing. But I find it confusing because...I dunno, Nate's complaints don't seem justified, so I don't really get where Nate is supposed to be coming from with all that. It's especially weird to me because meanwhile, some of the characters have exceptionally terrible relationships with their fathers (Nora and Mick), some apparently have no relationships with their fathers (Ray and Hank), and some have exceptionally awesome relationships with their fathers (Sarah), and yet it's Nate, whose interactions with his dad seem nice but otherwise unremarkable, who is the one character who constantly brings up his own daddy issues? Haha honestly, seems a little insensitive
posted by rue72 at 9:24 PM on April 14, 2019 [1 favorite]

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