The Purge: Season Two
October 16, 2019 6:17 AM - Season 2 (Full Season) - Subscribe
Revolving around a 12-hour period when all crime, including murder, is legal, the spinoff to the film series is set in an altered America ruled by a totalitarian political party. This season once again follows several seemingly unrelated characters living in a small city as The Purge unfolds. Season two also follows the activities of the NFFA, a government surveillance agency that monitors the action on Purge Night.
Things I want to know...
Are there US cities close to a border that essentially empty out? I live in northern Illinois and no fucking way would I spend The Purge home; I'd drive my family to Canada.
All crime is legal... how far does this go in property crime? If a person steals their neighbor's car, who does it belong to in the morning? If it does stay with the thief, is their paperwork involved?
Is there Purge insurance?
Would leaving the city be safer or worse? If you were a decent hiker, would getting five miles or so off trail be enough? Or would sickos just specialize in tracking people The Deadliest Game style?
Wouldn't the lack of emergency services mean fires could spread way way out of control? Being a firefighter the day after The Purge would be a tough job. ER staff, too.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 6:36 AM on October 16, 2019 [5 favorites]
Are there US cities close to a border that essentially empty out? I live in northern Illinois and no fucking way would I spend The Purge home; I'd drive my family to Canada.
All crime is legal... how far does this go in property crime? If a person steals their neighbor's car, who does it belong to in the morning? If it does stay with the thief, is their paperwork involved?
Is there Purge insurance?
Would leaving the city be safer or worse? If you were a decent hiker, would getting five miles or so off trail be enough? Or would sickos just specialize in tracking people The Deadliest Game style?
Wouldn't the lack of emergency services mean fires could spread way way out of control? Being a firefighter the day after The Purge would be a tough job. ER staff, too.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 6:36 AM on October 16, 2019 [5 favorites]
Do they ever address what happens the next day? Like my coworker just killed my whole family and now we are back at the office together?
Also, there is a TV series? And 2 seasons? I need to start watching these. I have had a morbid fascination with the whole concept but never bothered actually watching a single one of the movies.
posted by Literaryhero at 7:14 AM on October 16, 2019
Also, there is a TV series? And 2 seasons? I need to start watching these. I have had a morbid fascination with the whole concept but never bothered actually watching a single one of the movies.
posted by Literaryhero at 7:14 AM on October 16, 2019
Season one might be a great place to start. You can watch the movies, but they start off as genre exercises, only showing their true satirical/dystopian/sociological interests as the series goes on.
The Purge franchise has a definite feeling of "We're getting away with this? People are down? FUCK IT, make it even more nakedly parallel to the actual climate in the US."
posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:19 AM on October 16, 2019 [3 favorites]
The Purge franchise has a definite feeling of "We're getting away with this? People are down? FUCK IT, make it even more nakedly parallel to the actual climate in the US."
posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:19 AM on October 16, 2019 [3 favorites]
Come to think of it, Purge insurance does exist. There is a storyline in The Purge: Election Year about this.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:32 AM on October 16, 2019
posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:32 AM on October 16, 2019
A person who "steals" something during the purge may be able to avoid criminal liability for maintaining possession afterwards, but it's not clear that they would be able to defeat a civil action for replevin and then a conversion claim to reacquire possession. I mean, it's possible that these common-law principles have been overridden by statute, but on first glance, it seems unlikely--that would essentially allow squatters to come in and claim any open territory they could manage to stand in during the last moment of the purge. That kind of radical redistribution of wealth seems inconsistent with the overall theme of the dystopia they've developed. Anyway, this is clearly an area where the writers need to spend much more time, I'd like to see them explore all the ramifications of the purge on tort, contract and property law in the next season, and I'm sure I'm not alone.
posted by skewed at 9:49 AM on October 16, 2019 [7 favorites]
posted by skewed at 9:49 AM on October 16, 2019 [7 favorites]
There's a bank robbery in the season premiere that addresses an interesting wrinkle: how would you protect anything that requires guarding if there were no penalties for killing the guards? In this case, the guards abandon their posts when the robbers threaten them.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:13 AM on October 16, 2019
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:13 AM on October 16, 2019
Seems to me you'd just hire guards who have no qualms about shooting first, right? It's Purge night, the guards won't face any charges for straight-up murdering trespassers.
posted by tobascodagama at 11:24 AM on October 16, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by tobascodagama at 11:24 AM on October 16, 2019 [2 favorites]
Here's another stupid/smart hypothetical... If one person kidnaps another and takes them to their lair, with the intention of killing them but does not complete the act before the siren, but the kidnappee doesn't escape, can the kidnapper then press charges for trespassing? Can they use a Stand Your Ground defense for shooting the "intruder" in their home?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:32 AM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:32 AM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
And on a grimmer tangent, isn't it pretty likely that entire minority neighborhoods would get burned to the ground?
Even beyond that, wouldn't there be what amounted to Purge refugees every year? People whose homes, caretakers, or jobs were destroyed during The Purge?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:34 AM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
Even beyond that, wouldn't there be what amounted to Purge refugees every year? People whose homes, caretakers, or jobs were destroyed during The Purge?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:34 AM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
Maybe the fact that this Purge ended in episode one means we'll get some of the beyond the margins stuff this season.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:35 AM on October 16, 2019
posted by DirtyOldTown at 11:35 AM on October 16, 2019
And on a grimmer tangent, isn't it pretty likely that entire minority neighborhoods would get burned to the ground?
IIRC, this was an intentional feature from the perspective of the NFFA.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:04 PM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
IIRC, this was an intentional feature from the perspective of the NFFA.
posted by tobascodagama at 12:04 PM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
how would you protect anything that requires guarding if there were no penalties for killing the guards? In this case, the guards abandon their posts when the robbers threaten them.
I'm guessing you'd have to have like 50% of their annual salary be a post-purge bonus that they only get if things go well. And yeah, like tobascodagama said, hire guards eager to shoot intruders, and widely advertise that.
After thinking about it over my lunch hour, I don't think any financial institutions would survive, or at least they'd have to move overseas. Nobody is going to put any money into a bank, trust or really any investment vehicle if the custodian could just take the money during the purge and not ever give it back. I guess what I'm saying is, I would be the worst showrunner in history.
posted by skewed at 12:28 PM on October 16, 2019
I'm guessing you'd have to have like 50% of their annual salary be a post-purge bonus that they only get if things go well. And yeah, like tobascodagama said, hire guards eager to shoot intruders, and widely advertise that.
After thinking about it over my lunch hour, I don't think any financial institutions would survive, or at least they'd have to move overseas. Nobody is going to put any money into a bank, trust or really any investment vehicle if the custodian could just take the money during the purge and not ever give it back. I guess what I'm saying is, I would be the worst showrunner in history.
posted by skewed at 12:28 PM on October 16, 2019
Holy smokes, that mini episode based around a morning show is... something else.
Looks like we're getting our wish. Season two will be about the interim between Purges.
This is ham-fisted at times, but it's still some of the ballsiest satire on TV. Looking forward to it.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:44 PM on October 16, 2019
Looks like we're getting our wish. Season two will be about the interim between Purges.
This is ham-fisted at times, but it's still some of the ballsiest satire on TV. Looking forward to it.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:44 PM on October 16, 2019
this was an intentional feature from the perspective of the NFFA.
It's been made clear as an intention. Hasn't happened on the show though. That was what I meant.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:47 PM on October 16, 2019 [2 favorites]
It's been made clear as an intention. Hasn't happened on the show though. That was what I meant.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 1:47 PM on October 16, 2019 [2 favorites]
Is there Purge insurance?
In the Purge: Election Year yes there is Purge insurance. In fact, that's one of the key parts of the plot as the insurance company radically raises rates right before the Purge. Thus the small mom and pop store find themselves suddenly screwed. The owner decides to stay and guard his store.
That film also mentions Purge tourism- people come to this country specifically to Purge. And there is a scene with a bunch of Russian purge tourists wearing american flag decorated ensembles are purging. So it makes sense that yes there would be tourism also going the other way. And of course a slew of people trying to make money on it through Airbnb.
I am very curious about seeing the aftermath because yeah I can imagine that would be a seriously rough morning after.
posted by miss-lapin at 4:51 PM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
In the Purge: Election Year yes there is Purge insurance. In fact, that's one of the key parts of the plot as the insurance company radically raises rates right before the Purge. Thus the small mom and pop store find themselves suddenly screwed. The owner decides to stay and guard his store.
That film also mentions Purge tourism- people come to this country specifically to Purge. And there is a scene with a bunch of Russian purge tourists wearing american flag decorated ensembles are purging. So it makes sense that yes there would be tourism also going the other way. And of course a slew of people trying to make money on it through Airbnb.
I am very curious about seeing the aftermath because yeah I can imagine that would be a seriously rough morning after.
posted by miss-lapin at 4:51 PM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]
Wow so much overthinking... was expecting commode porn.
posted by sammyo at 7:22 AM on October 17, 2019
posted by sammyo at 7:22 AM on October 17, 2019
Commode porn? Definitely not.
The Purge series is a terrific illustration of Gene Siskel's observation that a movie isn't about what it is about, it is about how it is about it.
And The Purge movies/series are satire/social commentary on America's troubled relationship with violence.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 7:30 AM on October 17, 2019 [2 favorites]
The Purge series is a terrific illustration of Gene Siskel's observation that a movie isn't about what it is about, it is about how it is about it.
And The Purge movies/series are satire/social commentary on America's troubled relationship with violence.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 7:30 AM on October 17, 2019 [2 favorites]
Do they ever address what happens the next day? Like my coworker just killed my whole family and now we are back at the office together?
Based on the preview, this is exactly what season 2 is about - it starts 2 hours before the Purge Night ends then follows the characters through a year of life up to the next Purge Night.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 5:05 PM on October 17, 2019 [2 favorites]
Based on the preview, this is exactly what season 2 is about - it starts 2 hours before the Purge Night ends then follows the characters through a year of life up to the next Purge Night.
posted by EndsOfInvention at 5:05 PM on October 17, 2019 [2 favorites]
Ok so I just watched the first episode-they are now introducing the surveillance angle, which looks like it will be interesting.
posted by miss-lapin at 5:46 PM on October 17, 2019
posted by miss-lapin at 5:46 PM on October 17, 2019
The new Miranda rights:
You hereby forfeit your rights as a United States citizen. Anything you say or do by action or inaction will be held against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney who will be provided for you at our earliest convenience. Do you understand these rights?posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:45 PM on October 22, 2019
Most brutal parts of episode two:
-maid services cleaning the bodies!
-the bank crew noting that the government doesn't so much sentence criminals anymore as hold them and wait for a Purge so that they can kill them
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:38 PM on October 22, 2019 [1 favorite]
-maid services cleaning the bodies!
-the bank crew noting that the government doesn't so much sentence criminals anymore as hold them and wait for a Purge so that they can kill them
posted by DirtyOldTown at 9:38 PM on October 22, 2019 [1 favorite]
Ok I just have to give a hats off to the kids who risked their lives to teepee the college campus. That's dedication people.
posted by miss-lapin at 11:38 PM on October 22, 2019
posted by miss-lapin at 11:38 PM on October 22, 2019
OK I've watched e2 now. I think they do a great job at showing how businesses are exploiting the purge-from video game to house sales. And it appears our little college student is going to be the resident negative character arc for this season.
posted by miss-lapin at 12:34 AM on October 23, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by miss-lapin at 12:34 AM on October 23, 2019 [1 favorite]
I'm hoping I'm not the only still watching.
I will say using a phone app to catch your wife if she's smart enough to use the Dark Net to get an assassin is probably not a great strategy.
posted by miss-lapin at 10:36 AM on October 31, 2019 [1 favorite]
I will say using a phone app to catch your wife if she's smart enough to use the Dark Net to get an assassin is probably not a great strategy.
posted by miss-lapin at 10:36 AM on October 31, 2019 [1 favorite]
There's something grimly realistic about cops ending up as rival gangs once there's an opportunity to put their skills and knowledge to work outside the law. And something grimly believable about it turning out to have professional consequences even so.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:43 AM on October 31, 2019 [2 favorites]
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:43 AM on October 31, 2019 [2 favorites]
The architecture behind this show is terrific but the actual moment to moment craftsmanship is occasionally... well, occasionally down to the level of a basic cable drama.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 6:55 AM on November 6, 2019
posted by DirtyOldTown at 6:55 AM on November 6, 2019
The direction they're going... with rage kills being covered up by the NFFA... Wow.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 2:48 PM on November 14, 2019
posted by DirtyOldTown at 2:48 PM on November 14, 2019
I don't mean to sound like I'm buying into this shit... But why does Marcus have such a shitty home defense plan? How about a sniper roost? Or at least a slot to shoot through?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 3:29 PM on December 13, 2019 [1 favorite]
posted by DirtyOldTown at 3:29 PM on December 13, 2019 [1 favorite]
I mean, I get it. Better angels and all. But he could have chosen some defense techniques that didn't have to kill anyone but gave the impression he could have.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 3:48 PM on December 13, 2019
posted by DirtyOldTown at 3:48 PM on December 13, 2019
I made a FF Talk post specifically for ridiculous Purge hypotheticals.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:56 AM on June 27, 2022
posted by DirtyOldTown at 8:56 AM on June 27, 2022
You are not logged in, either login or create an account to post comments
The opening where the soccer mom looking actress is hired to read the announcement is darkly hilarious.
posted by DirtyOldTown at 6:19 AM on October 16, 2019 [1 favorite]