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January 1, 2021 9:51 AM - Season 1 (Full Season) - Subscribe

After the world is in ruins, due to a man-made plague, a battle of Biblical proportions ensues between the survivors.
posted by guiseroom (14 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite
I always wonder about the"biblical" element of stories like these. I mean what's supposed to be happening in non-Christian areas like India and China? Yeah, I know the answer is "They don't matter because the center of the world is in the US," bit I have to like the idea if during one if these overtly Christian apocalypses, the people of other religions were going "What the hell are those crazy Christias don't now?”
posted by happyroach at 2:04 PM on January 1 [2 favorites]

I've had the same wonders. Imagine someone in India dreaming of Mother Abigail and then trying to cross oceans and half the world to get to Nebraska, and then when they do arrive they've missed everything. The Stand really does play into America as the chosen land.

A much funnier alternative is that the virus only ravages North America and the rest of the world keeps chugging along.
posted by guiseroom at 3:06 PM on January 1 [2 favorites]

In the book, Flagg speculates that there may be someone like him overseas and that eventually he'll have to deal with them, but he's preoccupied with the Boulder community for the time being. The book also made it clear that the US government deliberately spread the virus overseas once it became clear that the outbreak couldn't be contained.
posted by Halloween Jack at 4:35 PM on January 1 [3 favorites]

Is this good? I put it on my "to watch" list but I'm not sure if I'm actually going to get around to it. I enjoyed the original TV version, but my friend and I were suckers for pretty much anything that came on multiple VHS tapes back in the day.
posted by jordemort at 6:06 PM on January 1

Jordemort, I am enjoying this so far. I don’t like some of the liberties taken with the story, but the casting is excellent and the production values aren’t insanely cheap looking.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 7:10 PM on January 1 [1 favorite]

Yeah I know, not exactly high praise, but I wasn’t terribly impressed with the trailer and my expectations were kept low. I realize now that I’m probably never going to see a prestige tv adaptation of The Stand and this version is what I should be happy with.
posted by computech_apolloniajames at 8:05 PM on January 1 [1 favorite]

I was disappointed that they changed the tunnel scene to a lackluster sewer scene but I really don't think they could have done a better job than the tunnel scene from the 1994 miniseries.
posted by guiseroom at 8:26 PM on January 1

The worst part is that it’s obvious that no one involved with this has ever stepped foot into Colorado, let alone Boulder.
posted by sideshow at 9:00 PM on January 1 [1 favorite]

recently rewatched the 1994 miniseries, after exhausting the rest of the non-zombie infectious disease films in the ol' library (ok, some of the zombie ones too). it was pretty bad and yet told the story reasonably well all things considered. love me some trashcan man. appreciate some miguel ferrer. don't mind the sinise, ringwald & lowe. flagg, lauder & nadine all laughably bad.

i don't hate this one. marginally different approach to the story-telling. very good casting. probably can't go back to lowe's nick andros after henry zaga's tortured characterization. like adepo's larry underwood better than storke's. lauder is somewhat more ... dimensional, much less wooden than the prior dude though still not at all interesting. yes, the sewer-for-tunnel substitution was not great. no trashcan man yet.

the stand is deplorably u.s.-centric. i imagine very much the same story is playing out on other continents with appropriate avatars of good/evil, assuming survivors in those places. it has been long since i read the book, or any others of king's oeuvre. notwithstanding flagg's speculation about counterparts abroad, recounted by Halloween Jack, above, i feel as though king's ultimate cosmology -- as presented across the dark tower series -- winds up with the personified evils of it, the stand, the talisman etc all being avatars of... is it the red king? i see that it is "the crimson king," though wikipedia tells me those baddies are each different supernatural beings being driven by that evil archetype. meh: red-eyed spiders all the way down.

it is probably worth noting that the depicted manichaean struggle, while presented in garb easily accessible to a u.s.-ian christianish audience, does not depict the eschatological narrative from prophesies in the sacred texts of christians. (for that you need the left behind series, or something of similar ilk; i read those, but would not recommend it, either for literary entertainment or for prophetic exegesis. probably worth adding that the details of lahaye/jenkins's dispensational premillennialist eschatology aren't necessarily standard among nominal coreligionists, though more so since publication than before, probably.) here there is no tribulation, no antichrist, no second coming, no final judgment, no 1000-year reign of the saved (does that prize seem kinda petty to anybody else, in light of the sweep of history and received scientific cosmology, as it strikes me?). this, the stand, is just another ultimate battle of good versus evil, very much like every other ultimate battle of good versus evil, among the works of king and beyond, with vaguely christiany atmospherics.
posted by 20 year lurk at 1:08 AM on January 2 [2 favorites]

sideshow Amusingly, having recently lived in Denver for a few years and having just rewatched the 1994 miniseries, I commented to my partner that in comparison, the 2020 version at least looks like someone's been in the vicinity of Boulder before.

Except for whoever decided to move Hemingford Home to Colorado, that is. I know corn grows in all 50 states and I have in fact seen corn growing in Colorado.... but it was for a Halloween zombie corn maze, and Colorado is otherwise not exactly known for its fields of corn.

I suppose the cornfield could be mystical, but really, all cornfields are mystical, and it's better if they're actual cornfields and not dream-only ones.
posted by rhiannonstone at 3:09 PM on January 2 [1 favorite]

I'm really enjoying it so far. Looking forward to seeing what they do with Trashcan Man. And if they include that insane bit with the dude in the yellow car with the gun.
posted by h00py at 2:30 AM on January 3

sideshow Amusingly, having recently lived in Denver for a few years and having just rewatched the 1994 miniseries, I commented to my partner that in comparison, the 2020 version at least looks like someone's been in the vicinity of Boulder before.

I mean, I guess haven’t seen the 94 edition in a while. But unless they filmed in Miami-Dade County, not sure how they could get it worse.
posted by sideshow at 9:57 AM on January 3

And if they include that insane bit with the dude in the yellow car with the gun.

Sadly, the Kid didn't stay in the picture.
posted by Halloween Jack at 6:16 AM on January 4 [2 favorites]

1994 miniseries was filmed in Utah, which is, as they say, at least adjacent to Colorado.
posted by seasparrow at 8:14 AM on January 4

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