Grimm: Death Do Us Part
January 30, 2015 7:16 PM - Season 4, Episode 11 - Subscribe
Rosalee and Monroe finally go on their honeymoon; Nick and Hank investigate a shocking homicide at an abandoned--and supposedly haunted--residence.
Maybe there's a way the Juliette secrecy could work for me but this isn't it. The only upside to it so far is that it's not clear to me she asked Reynard to keep it to himself or that he even realizes Nick is unaware. Her making bad choices I can live with short term, that sort of conspiracy no.
posted by phearlez at 8:40 PM on January 30, 2015
posted by phearlez at 8:40 PM on January 30, 2015
I've been wondering when we'd get a Wesen who projected electricity.
Of course Wu already knows more about the stuff in the trailer than Nick does. It's ridiculous how little curiosity Nick's character has about all the lore at his fingertips. He should be much more familiar with all those books by this time.
I assume Renard's sudden downturn is due to either Juliette's presence causing his mother's magic to go haywire, or his mother is either wounded or dead, and if it's the later that might mean things didn't go well when she caught up with Nick's mom. That would be too bad; I was hoping they'd become odd traveling buddies and have their own whacky adventures.
posted by homunculus at 11:08 PM on January 30, 2015 [3 favorites]
Of course Wu already knows more about the stuff in the trailer than Nick does. It's ridiculous how little curiosity Nick's character has about all the lore at his fingertips. He should be much more familiar with all those books by this time.
I assume Renard's sudden downturn is due to either Juliette's presence causing his mother's magic to go haywire, or his mother is either wounded or dead, and if it's the later that might mean things didn't go well when she caught up with Nick's mom. That would be too bad; I was hoping they'd become odd traveling buddies and have their own whacky adventures.
posted by homunculus at 11:08 PM on January 30, 2015 [3 favorites]
I loved all things Wu in this episode.
One of this week's TNT repeats (S1e15 Island of Dreams) was when Wu ate the cookie, I'd forgotten how long he's been on the receiving end of Wesen-fu and then gaslighting by Nick. (This was also the one where Bud brings a pie to Nick & Juliette, and the first Rosalee episode. So I had seen the beginning of Monroe/Rosalee after all, just must not have been paying enough attention back then.)
I wish Juliette would stop being dumb and tell Nick what's going on with her.
I can maybe fanwank that it's the hexenbiest part of her being instinctually fearful of a Grimm causing her to be secretive, but, it does seem more like a writerly "Juliette's turn to hold the idiot ball" choice than anything else.
posted by oh yeah! at 8:29 AM on January 31, 2015 [4 favorites]
One of this week's TNT repeats (S1e15 Island of Dreams) was when Wu ate the cookie, I'd forgotten how long he's been on the receiving end of Wesen-fu and then gaslighting by Nick. (This was also the one where Bud brings a pie to Nick & Juliette, and the first Rosalee episode. So I had seen the beginning of Monroe/Rosalee after all, just must not have been paying enough attention back then.)
I wish Juliette would stop being dumb and tell Nick what's going on with her.
I can maybe fanwank that it's the hexenbiest part of her being instinctually fearful of a Grimm causing her to be secretive, but, it does seem more like a writerly "Juliette's turn to hold the idiot ball" choice than anything else.
posted by oh yeah! at 8:29 AM on January 31, 2015 [4 favorites]
In this world, we know that while some secrets must be kept from the general public, among the primary characters keeping secrets inevitably results in catastrophe. I've never been a fan of Juliette and this whole secret thing plus the mysterious Henrietta? I have a very bad feeling.
In regards to Renard's injury. My immediate thought was his mother must be dead and thus the spell that saved him is undone. However, if that was the case, wouldn't that mean the spell on Juliette would also be broken?
And I totally admit I miss Monrosalie, although I am glad they are having a wonderful honeymoon.
posted by miss-lapin at 3:19 PM on January 31, 2015
In regards to Renard's injury. My immediate thought was his mother must be dead and thus the spell that saved him is undone. However, if that was the case, wouldn't that mean the spell on Juliette would also be broken?
And I totally admit I miss Monrosalie, although I am glad they are having a wonderful honeymoon.
posted by miss-lapin at 3:19 PM on January 31, 2015
I hope the Ghost Seekers stick around, it's obviously so ridiculous that there isn't a Wesen truther movement already. We could use more factions in the World of Grimm, especially ones with different goals than control over the World Shadow Government, and even more especially ones that stick around for more than one episode.
posted by Small Dollar at 3:25 PM on January 31, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Small Dollar at 3:25 PM on January 31, 2015 [1 favorite]
Am I the only person who secretly hoped they were going to say they were Ghost Facers?
posted by miss-lapin at 3:31 PM on January 31, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by miss-lapin at 3:31 PM on January 31, 2015 [3 favorites]
I can maybe fanwank that it's the hexenbiest part of her being instinctually fearful of a Grimm causing her to be secretive, but, it does seem more like a writerly "Juliette's turn to hold the idiot ball" choice than anything else.
Yeah, I definitely think that's part of the reason we're getting so many of Juliette's nightmares to get us to forgive her not telling, but it is aggravating.
But I forgive a lot of logic leaps in this show, so *shrug*
(Also in show time it's probably been about 3 or 4 days, which included the entire time Monroe was kidnapped.)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 10:17 PM on January 31, 2015
Yeah, I definitely think that's part of the reason we're getting so many of Juliette's nightmares to get us to forgive her not telling, but it is aggravating.
But I forgive a lot of logic leaps in this show, so *shrug*
(Also in show time it's probably been about 3 or 4 days, which included the entire time Monroe was kidnapped.)
posted by MCMikeNamara at 10:17 PM on January 31, 2015
Juliette's decision not to tell Nick is as silly as a Three's Company episode. It makes ZERO sense. First of all, he's a Grimm, you know, the dude who sniffs out Wesen? Second of all, every week they are dealing with some different fall out of Adalind's mischief, wouldn't Juliette figure that Nick would understand? Would he be mad? No. Would he help her sort it out? Obviously. Its just silly.
posted by ian1977 at 6:12 AM on February 1, 2015
posted by ian1977 at 6:12 AM on February 1, 2015
I miss Monroe and Rosalie too. They really anchor that show down. I think Monroe should have a cable access show called 'Clock Time with Monroe.' He could nerd out about clocks. And every so often Rosalie could do a guest spot where she shows you how to make a killer ointment.
posted by ian1977 at 6:14 AM on February 1, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by ian1977 at 6:14 AM on February 1, 2015 [1 favorite]
While I agree that Juliette keeping her Hexenbeast-ness a secret is more of a plot device than anything else, I think I could see that the writers figure it makes some sense - she's always been more than a little self-effacing and a bit of a "delicate flower", so I could see her figuring that she shouldn't "burden" Nick with this problem. Plus I get the impression that she was (supposedly) really horrified when she blew out the back of that Wesenrein's head last episode, and feels guilty and afraid that Nick's view of her will change for the worse if he discovers that she's now some kind of unthinking killer. (Although the show kind of borked that take on things by having everyone including Juliette be really blasé about disposing of the bodies & pulling a major cover-up in the aftermath.)
The problem, IMO, isn't that now it's Juliette's turn to hold the idiot-ball - it's that this is like the eleventeenth time it's been her turn, and it's getting old. In a show with a wide variety of strong and interesting and complex women characters, the one woman who makes a habit of heading for the fainting couch at the first sign of trouble really stands out as a weak person and maybe an example of some problematically stereotypical writing for female characters. (For example, last season's ending, where the whole plot basically hinged on Juliette pulling an eye-rollingly clichéd "I am super mad at my boyfriend but I am not actually going to do or say anything but be passive-aggressively sulky" until it was too late to foil Adalind's plan.)
posted by soundguy99 at 7:13 AM on February 1, 2015 [2 favorites]
The problem, IMO, isn't that now it's Juliette's turn to hold the idiot-ball - it's that this is like the eleventeenth time it's been her turn, and it's getting old. In a show with a wide variety of strong and interesting and complex women characters, the one woman who makes a habit of heading for the fainting couch at the first sign of trouble really stands out as a weak person and maybe an example of some problematically stereotypical writing for female characters. (For example, last season's ending, where the whole plot basically hinged on Juliette pulling an eye-rollingly clichéd "I am super mad at my boyfriend but I am not actually going to do or say anything but be passive-aggressively sulky" until it was too late to foil Adalind's plan.)
posted by soundguy99 at 7:13 AM on February 1, 2015 [2 favorites]
If Juliette wants to stop being a Hexenbeast, doesn't _everyone_ know by now that it's happened before and it wasn't that difficult? Just takes a tiny bit of Grimm, to which she has easy access.
posted by amtho at 9:51 AM on February 1, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by amtho at 9:51 AM on February 1, 2015 [3 favorites]
Of course Wu already knows more about the stuff in the trailer than Nick does. It's ridiculous how little curiosity Nick's character has about all the lore at his fingertips.
Also, apparently Grimms don't believe in indexes. No, let's not invest any time to make life easier; let's always leaf through every book in the trailer every time we want to look something up.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 5:50 PM on February 2, 2015 [2 favorites]
Also, apparently Grimms don't believe in indexes. No, let's not invest any time to make life easier; let's always leaf through every book in the trailer every time we want to look something up.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 5:50 PM on February 2, 2015 [2 favorites]
Also, loved the callback to Wu eating carpet. For the longest time whenever Wu appeared on-screen we'd turn to each other and list all the things he ate in that arc: "you ate quarters!" "you ate a cushion!"
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 5:56 PM on February 2, 2015
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 5:56 PM on February 2, 2015
Also, apparently Grimms don't believe in indexes. No, let's not invest any time to make life easier; let's always leaf through every book in the trailer every time we want to look something up.
You guys have never seen my office, obviously.
posted by Mogur at 12:20 PM on February 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
You guys have never seen my office, obviously.
posted by Mogur at 12:20 PM on February 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
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I wish Juliette would stop being dumb and tell Nick what's going on with her.
As far as the actual monster-of-the-week, it was alright I guess. I liked that the kid escaped with the video and posted it online and they saw it and just went "ehh" and shrugged it off, rather than the posting of the video being a Huge Deal That Must Be Stopped At All Costs the way it might've been in some shows. Men in Black they ain't.
posted by mstokes650 at 8:23 PM on January 30, 2015 [2 favorites]