The Flash: Fallout
February 18, 2015 4:53 AM - Season 1, Episode 14 - Subscribe
Flash and company pick up where "The Nuclear Man" left off.
Possibly the most deleriously comic-booky episode of The Flash yet, and one laden with revelations and plot points. Ronnie and Stein become the Firestorm DC fans know and love (and knowing this show, when they come back they'll even have the red and yellow suit), Iris' co-worker Mason Bridge establishes himself as the single worst reporter in all of human history, Dr. Wells finally shows his true colors to someone, Gen. Eiling goes total supervillain...and then there's the (absolutely #$@!ing delightful) final line. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in full-on psychic evil gorilla territory.
Possibly the most deleriously comic-booky episode of The Flash yet, and one laden with revelations and plot points. Ronnie and Stein become the Firestorm DC fans know and love (and knowing this show, when they come back they'll even have the red and yellow suit), Iris' co-worker Mason Bridge establishes himself as the single worst reporter in all of human history, Dr. Wells finally shows his true colors to someone, Gen. Eiling goes total supervillain...and then there's the (absolutely #$@!ing delightful) final line. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in full-on psychic evil gorilla territory.
SOOOOOO GOOOOOOD (or GRODDDDDD, if you will)
I am doing my "told you so" dance at the inevitable reveal of Wells as Reverse Flash.
Despite its goofiness, its ponderous and heavy romance plotlines, The Flash has by far been one of the most rewarding, fun, and excellent TV shows I've seen in a while. More, please.
posted by Kitteh at 10:36 AM on February 18, 2015 [1 favorite]
I am doing my "told you so" dance at the inevitable reveal of Wells as Reverse Flash.
Despite its goofiness, its ponderous and heavy romance plotlines, The Flash has by far been one of the most rewarding, fun, and excellent TV shows I've seen in a while. More, please.
posted by Kitteh at 10:36 AM on February 18, 2015 [1 favorite]
I was really glad that Iris got her own plot again.
Did anyone else exclaim that Ronnie and Stein were drift compatable when they were explaining the whole 'completely in sync' thing? That crossover could totally happen, I'm sure Wells would totally be up for creating some Kaiju in his spare time.
The gorilla thing - I did not actually know about Grodd before this episode, so when General Elling mentioned that the last time he did that, it was to a gorilla, I immediately wanted a flashback. And now it might happen! I can hope.
Cisco got some good lines in this week, too. 'That was like, week three!' was a bit on-the-nose, but I totally forgot about it, too.
posted by dinty_moore at 10:42 AM on February 18, 2015
Did anyone else exclaim that Ronnie and Stein were drift compatable when they were explaining the whole 'completely in sync' thing? That crossover could totally happen, I'm sure Wells would totally be up for creating some Kaiju in his spare time.
The gorilla thing - I did not actually know about Grodd before this episode, so when General Elling mentioned that the last time he did that, it was to a gorilla, I immediately wanted a flashback. And now it might happen! I can hope.
Cisco got some good lines in this week, too. 'That was like, week three!' was a bit on-the-nose, but I totally forgot about it, too.
posted by dinty_moore at 10:42 AM on February 18, 2015
Reading some recaps of this episode a lot of people are seeing it as a backdoor pilot for an eventual Firestorm spinoff. I'm very iffy on whether they could support an entire separate series but I would be totally down for an Agent Carter-style interquel that follows Ronnie and Prof. Stein in Pittsburgh, and not just because it would fill these upcoming, desolate, Flash-less weeks before March 17.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 10:51 AM on February 18, 2015
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 10:51 AM on February 18, 2015
I loved how Eiling literally pulled all his superhero counters out of his butt.
"I just bombarded your cellular structure with enough ions to destabilize your matrix!"
posted by gimli at 11:15 AM on February 18, 2015
"I just bombarded your cellular structure with enough ions to destabilize your matrix!"
posted by gimli at 11:15 AM on February 18, 2015
My boyfriend thought the same thing about the backdoor pilot, and it did have the structure of one. I'm not really sure if that's the intent, though. How many more superhero shows can the CW sustain at once?
posted by dinty_moore at 11:34 AM on February 18, 2015
posted by dinty_moore at 11:34 AM on February 18, 2015
I'm sure that as long the ones they're broadcasting continue to bring in money, the executives' answer will be "more than we currently have."
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:48 AM on February 18, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 11:48 AM on February 18, 2015 [2 favorites]
I'm not sure if they're planning on a spin-off, but Berlanti et al seem to have embraced the fact that these are shows about comic book characters and not just soap operas with powers (I'm looking at you, Smallville), and it's working out pretty damn good IMO. I do think Robbie Amell and Victor Garber need to work on better buddy-cop chemistry if they want it to work, though. Just bring me more villainous hyper-intelligent gorilla action and I'll be happy.
posted by zombieflanders at 6:15 PM on February 18, 2015
posted by zombieflanders at 6:15 PM on February 18, 2015
I don't have anything intelligent to say about all the plot stuff right now after just having watched it, but I'm flailing about full-on psychic evil gorilla territory!
posted by immlass at 8:53 PM on February 18, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by immlass at 8:53 PM on February 18, 2015 [1 favorite]
MUCH more a fan of this plot for Iris. Well, honestly, I haven't been a fan of any of her previous plots, but this one feels like the natural one, the one I wish had been happening all along. That short little scene in the coffee shop with Caitlin and Cisco, so understated, the potential for menace echoed in the more structured jacket there even while she's still the same friendly and smiling person she was before: love it. Wish she'd been this on from the start, though I understand why they maybe wanted to do a progression.
In some ways I'm still in disbelief that they're going to go full blown telepathic gorilla on us -- I have never been a fan of any of the Flash rogues in the comics, except for the handcuffed together madly fleeing plot of Countdown -- but what the hell, they already got Rainbow Raider out of the way; any objections I have to the others are no longer valid.
(Except the Top. Fuck the Top.)
And Joe, that was not a convincing lie at all, but bless you, Barry's Best Dad, you're the greatest.
posted by automatic cabinet at 8:34 AM on February 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
In some ways I'm still in disbelief that they're going to go full blown telepathic gorilla on us -- I have never been a fan of any of the Flash rogues in the comics, except for the handcuffed together madly fleeing plot of Countdown -- but what the hell, they already got Rainbow Raider out of the way; any objections I have to the others are no longer valid.
(Except the Top. Fuck the Top.)
And Joe, that was not a convincing lie at all, but bless you, Barry's Best Dad, you're the greatest.
posted by automatic cabinet at 8:34 AM on February 19, 2015 [1 favorite]
I grew up with the Carmine Infantino run of The Flash, so this show, at it's core, has been a lot of fun for me. Firestorm was also introduced when I was young enough to remember the fist issue coming out. I'm glad that with this episode they showed off the ... charm? of Firestorm. I don't want a Firestorm show, but they introduced him well. Now he needs to go hang out with Green Arrow.
I hope they remember that Grodd is really smart, for how evil he is. I want a definitive Grodd!
posted by Catblack at 11:19 AM on February 19, 2015
I hope they remember that Grodd is really smart, for how evil he is. I want a definitive Grodd!
posted by Catblack at 11:19 AM on February 19, 2015
The show's willingness to let people have pop culture knowledge is so wonderful.
"huh?"
"Like Terminator."
"Ah."
"..."
"Like Back to the Future."
"Oh. Saw that one too."
Then Wells not playing the snooty scientist who has never seen any movie ever? Wonderful.
posted by phearlez at 2:42 PM on February 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
"huh?"
"Like Terminator."
"Ah."
"..."
"Like Back to the Future."
"Oh. Saw that one too."
Then Wells not playing the snooty scientist who has never seen any movie ever? Wonderful.
posted by phearlez at 2:42 PM on February 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
Yeah, Eiling's counters were a little ridiculous, but also quite nice to see. I like smart bad guys who spend their time (and money) trying to foil our heroes in interesting ways.
Also, I liked this silly screencap recap of the ep, via Reddit.
posted by adrianhon at 2:44 PM on February 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
Also, I liked this silly screencap recap of the ep, via Reddit.
posted by adrianhon at 2:44 PM on February 19, 2015 [4 favorites]
Well, it looks like the idea of a spinoff or spinoffs is catching on at the CW: CW developing 'Arrow'/'Flash' spin-off with Brandon Routh, Victor Garber & Wentworth Miller (FYI, there's a spoiler for earlier episodes of "Arrow")
Back at press tour, the producers of the CW's superhero dramas "Arrow" and "The Flash" said they were in very early discussions about whether to develop another spin-off starring Brandon Routh as the Atom. Yesterday, news broke suggesting those discussions have become both more advanced and complex.posted by zombieflanders at 7:44 AM on February 27, 2015
In a story first reported by Deadline, and then confirmed to an extent by Greg Berlanti himself, the spin-off won't just involve Routh, but will feature characters and actors from both shows, including Victor Garber (one half of Firestorm), Wentworth Miller (supervillain Captain Cold) and Caity Lotz (the original Canary on "Arrow," who was killed off earlier this season and might be playing a new character). Deadline's Nellie Andreeva also wrote "I have learned the new project will include three major DC Comics characters who have never appeared in a TV series."
If this is a Brave And The Bold anthology show, or something along those lines, I'm prepared to renounce every negative thing I ever said about further spin-offs.
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:01 AM on February 27, 2015
posted by Holy Zarquon's Singing Fish at 8:01 AM on February 27, 2015
In my wildest dreams, that gets Marvel to offer up a Nextwave series as a response. I would go all anime-starry-heart-eyes if that happened.
posted by zombieflanders at 8:13 AM on February 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by zombieflanders at 8:13 AM on February 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
I'm only interested in Nextwave as penned by Warren Ellis.
posted by phearlez at 9:20 AM on February 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by phearlez at 9:20 AM on February 27, 2015 [1 favorite]
The Flash 2015 PaleyFest Sizzle Reel (WARNING: Tons of kinda spoilers for the upcoming season)
posted by zombieflanders at 12:14 PM on March 16, 2015
posted by zombieflanders at 12:14 PM on March 16, 2015
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With the Firestorm Matrix now in play, I wonder if we'll see Captain Atom and Major Force rolling out?
posted by robocop is bleeding at 8:29 AM on February 18, 2015