Special Event: US VP Debate 2024: Battle of the Dads
October 1, 2024 1:40 PM - Subscribe
The thought of Hillbilly Vanilli being anybody's "dad" is LOL revolting.
posted by Pedantzilla at 2:19 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
posted by Pedantzilla at 2:19 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
America’s Dad vs. America’s Creepy Uncle
posted by mbrubeck at 2:23 PM on October 1 [14 favorites]
posted by mbrubeck at 2:23 PM on October 1 [14 favorites]
Mentioned this in a past thread, as seen on reddit: Dad vs Father
posted by ishmael at 2:36 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by ishmael at 2:36 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
For those who don't want to click through: 9PM EST or 6PM PST.
Remember to have soft things in your hand to throw at your TV so no TVs are damaged during the watching of this debate.
posted by corb at 2:37 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Remember to have soft things in your hand to throw at your TV so no TVs are damaged during the watching of this debate.
posted by corb at 2:37 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I'm actually a little nervous about this. I wouldn't wanna debate Kamala Harris, she of the prosecutorial onslaught, but neither would I want to debate JD Vance, high school debate club bully who never lets go of his point or fails to redirect to something that stings a bit.
But! Thankfully it really probably won't move the needle in any direction!
posted by kensington314 at 3:49 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
But! Thankfully it really probably won't move the needle in any direction!
posted by kensington314 at 3:49 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
I hate that this is true, and that the NYT broke this just now:
Tim Walz Said He Was in Hong Kong in 1989 During Tiananmen. Not True.
(Gift article link)
posted by blue suede stockings at 3:57 PM on October 1
Tim Walz Said He Was in Hong Kong in 1989 During Tiananmen. Not True.
(Gift article link)
posted by blue suede stockings at 3:57 PM on October 1
oh yeah, that does suck. I bet it also fails to move the needle though.
posted by kensington314 at 3:59 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by kensington314 at 3:59 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
In kinda sorta related news, former President Jimmy Carter turned 100 years old today and was sent Happy Birthday and Best Wishes videos by every living ex-President save one. No need to guess who that was. What a POS. But we knew that already, did we not?
posted by y2karl at 4:59 PM on October 1 [15 favorites]
posted by y2karl at 4:59 PM on October 1 [15 favorites]
Tim had to have a few faults and I hadn’t seen any others. That really is too bad - I wonder if he misremembered once and then was embarrassed to correct himself. On the other hand, using the story as much as he has, probably not. No, it shouldn’t matter in the larger picture, but it is too bad.
posted by Glinn at 5:12 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Glinn at 5:12 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I mean it is somewhat understandable if he was there in August of '89 how the political climate would have been centered around that event - not sure how that ever got made into he was in Hong Kong on the 35th of May.
posted by MtRChem at 5:18 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by MtRChem at 5:18 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
I can’t decide if I want to watch it. (Not because of the Tim Walz story, just in general.) It was worth it watching the last one to see Kamala kick tfg’s ass, but I don’t think I want to be overly stressed and enraged by the sound of Vance when I’ve got work tomorrow.
posted by Glinn at 5:18 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Glinn at 5:18 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Anyone want to put up a small post to the blue with a link to say the conversation is over here tonight? I would, but I think someone who is more well known in the community would have a better chance of not having the post deleted. Following two rapid fire threads would be.... a lot.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:20 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:20 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Seconded! I was refreshing the front page and only found this post via google.
posted by porpoise at 5:25 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by porpoise at 5:25 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Remember to have soft things in your hand to throw at your TV so no TVs are damaged during the watching of this debate.
Alternative strategy.
posted by Reverend John at 5:26 PM on October 1
Alternative strategy.
posted by Reverend John at 5:26 PM on October 1
Done - posted to the blue.
Thank you for this thread, phunniemee!
posted by kristi at 5:29 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
Thank you for this thread, phunniemee!
posted by kristi at 5:29 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
What’s the format for tonight? Do we think Vance is going to have a chance to pull the Tiananmen thing out?
posted by corb at 5:31 PM on October 1
posted by corb at 5:31 PM on October 1
Keep your eye on Bill Mulvey. He promises to be a complete moron.
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 5:37 PM on October 1
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 5:37 PM on October 1
Wait, where are you guys watching? Just realized that may have been a CBS specific observation
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 5:38 PM on October 1
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 5:38 PM on October 1
I heard “Jethro Dull” the other day and can’t stop thinking it.
posted by heyitsgogi at 5:38 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
posted by heyitsgogi at 5:38 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
Is Walz going to have a chance to ask the eyeliner question?
posted by y2karl at 5:39 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by y2karl at 5:39 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Done - posted to the blue.
Thank you for this thread, phunniemee!
Yes. Thank you kristi and phunniemee!
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:51 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Thank you for this thread, phunniemee!
Yes. Thank you kristi and phunniemee!
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:51 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
I just figured out I can watch this on Fox via Tubi. Hurray.
posted by Mr. Yuck at 5:52 PM on October 1
posted by Mr. Yuck at 5:52 PM on October 1
It's my birthday! Let's go let's go let's gooooo!
posted by mochapickle at 5:53 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 5:53 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
It's my birthday! Let's go let's go let's gooooo!
Jimmy Carter, is that you?
posted by phunniemee at 5:54 PM on October 1 [17 favorites]
Jimmy Carter, is that you?
posted by phunniemee at 5:54 PM on October 1 [17 favorites]
Happy birthday!
posted by Mr. Yuck at 5:55 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by Mr. Yuck at 5:55 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
I just figured out I can watch this on Fox via Tubi. Hurray.
Yeah, and it looks like basically any major news outlet has a youtube channel going for it. makes it easy for me since i haven't had OTA TV or cable for.... 13 years?
It's appreciated.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:55 PM on October 1
Yeah, and it looks like basically any major news outlet has a youtube channel going for it. makes it easy for me since i haven't had OTA TV or cable for.... 13 years?
It's appreciated.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 5:55 PM on October 1
J.D. Vance is in a green room, listening to ‘Lose Yourself’ on repeat.
posted by box at 5:57 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by box at 5:57 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
I'm watching the CBS feed on Roku and they're doing the "let's get half a dozen pundits to blather on to fill airtime" thing. Pundits are the worst. Just show the fucking thing without your dumb commentary.
posted by downtohisturtles at 5:58 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by downtohisturtles at 5:58 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
C-Span's website is another good source for these events and it doesn't care if you're not based in the U.S.
posted by sardonyx at 5:59 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by sardonyx at 5:59 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Hope I can get through this without shouting in rage at the xenophobia from Vance.
posted by Schmucko at 6:00 PM on October 1
posted by Schmucko at 6:00 PM on October 1
Just reading the white prose on the purple paper. It’s as close as I want to get.
posted by njohnson23 at 6:02 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by njohnson23 at 6:02 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Well heck the computer running my bedroom TV seems to be on the fritz, so I'm on my dumb little tablet. (Yes I simply must watch from bed, for the fainting.)
posted by phunniemee at 6:02 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 6:02 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Oh damn nerves
posted by Glinn at 6:03 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by Glinn at 6:03 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
I’m so nervous. He’s so nervous. Ahhhhhhhh
posted by sucre at 6:04 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by sucre at 6:04 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Wow...the VPs got a tougher question than the presidential candidates.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:04 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:04 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Walz starting straight out with "Isreal issue started on 10/7". Not the look I was hoping for.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:04 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:04 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Walz starting off sounding like a Republican and not answering the question. How hard is it to say “no, no pre emptive strike on Iran”?
posted by corb at 6:05 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by corb at 6:05 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Yeah, but he's doing OK in terms of pointing out that Trump would equal chaos when it comes to foreign policy - also foreign policy is clearly not his strong suite (not surprising, given he's a governor) - I imagine he'll ease into this once it gets to domestic policies.
posted by coffeecat at 6:06 PM on October 1
posted by coffeecat at 6:06 PM on October 1
Vance is trying to do the Harris face. Waltz not answering the question, which to be fair is too tough a question.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:06 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:06 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Vance: Israel? Let's instead begin with my author bio.
posted by mochapickle at 6:06 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 6:06 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Walz sounded shaken at the beginning.
Vance stares at Walz. Seems like he doesn’t want to catch the same criticisms as Trump.
posted by terrierhead at 6:06 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Vance stares at Walz. Seems like he doesn’t want to catch the same criticisms as Trump.
posted by terrierhead at 6:06 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Vance: “I’m going to answer the question, but first let me give you a one minute biography.”
posted by corb at 6:06 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by corb at 6:06 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Oof. Walz is not polished
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:07 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:07 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Did someone say Vance was on the debate team or something. He is less nervous :(
posted by Glinn at 6:07 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Glinn at 6:07 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Did they have the questions written at the bottom of the screen during the Prez debate? Remind everyone what they were supposed to be answering?
posted by phunniemee at 6:08 PM on October 1
posted by phunniemee at 6:08 PM on October 1
Walz is hitting his stride now.
posted by terrierhead at 6:08 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:08 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
Walz is already loosening up. Starting first is always nerve-wracking.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:08 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:08 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Ok now there is the Walz we need.
posted by Glinn at 6:08 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by Glinn at 6:08 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Walz much stronger in the rebuttal!
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 6:08 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by Blue Jello Elf at 6:08 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Vance's insincere deference to Walz is grating.
posted by porpoise at 6:10 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by porpoise at 6:10 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Yeah, though he still didn’t answer the question. He needs to answer the next one - I get the sense that Vance, a debater, is going to make sure to at least nominally do so each time and then call Walz out for not doing the same.
posted by corb at 6:10 PM on October 1
posted by corb at 6:10 PM on October 1
Vance is only referring to the Harris Administration, no mention of whatsisname, Biden.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:10 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:10 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Dear Vance you can't attack Harris the way Walz does Trump. Trump was President, Harris has only been a VP. She doesn't helm the ship.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:10 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:10 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Ok, nice to see climate stage as the second question.
posted by coffeecat at 6:11 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by coffeecat at 6:11 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
“Kamala Harris administration,” from your lips to God’s ears, JD, but you’re a little early there.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:11 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:11 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
JFC Vance. Ask a scientist. Crack a book.
posted by terrierhead at 6:12 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:12 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Weird science!!
posted by kensington314 at 6:14 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by kensington314 at 6:14 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Waltz is a little rougher in his delivery, but maybe that’s more authentic? Vance is pretty slick.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:14 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:14 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Wild watching a debate where both participants can speak coherently and fluently.
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:15 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:15 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
I mean Vance is slick because he's slimey.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:15 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:15 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
I like that he takes his time to repeatedly slam Trump on his insane comments. It’s clear that he’s not even spending much time on Vance, because it’s a waste of time.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:15 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:15 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
"I harvest corn and I harvest soybeans and I harvest wind" is a cool line and feels very futuristic Americana.
posted by phunniemee at 6:15 PM on October 1 [12 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 6:15 PM on October 1 [12 favorites]
Vance: Well, ya got trouble, my friend, right here, I say, trouble right here in River City.
posted by mochapickle at 6:16 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 6:16 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Walz looks like he’s getting angry. I hope it turns into fiery rhetoric.
Vance’s eyeliner is flawless.
posted by terrierhead at 6:16 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Vance’s eyeliner is flawless.
posted by terrierhead at 6:16 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
No Vance, Natural Gas still emits carbon. We need nuclear, solar, and wind.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:16 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:16 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Good news guys I turned my computer upside down and smacked it a few times and it started up! Running updates now. We may get to watch this debate on the big TV yet.
posted by phunniemee at 6:17 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 6:17 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Vance really practiced his “Who farted?” look.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Vance is good at this. He refuses to defend Trump, because he's indefensible. Walz should point that out.
posted by ryoshu at 6:17 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by ryoshu at 6:17 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Build the wall! DRINK!
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:18 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:18 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Dude Fetynal supply is in decline, read the news
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:18 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:18 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Vance: Americans want to work for less than minimum wage.
posted by mochapickle at 6:19 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 6:19 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
So they’re not fact-checking, but they are queuing up those questions nicely. Climate Change, calls for Mass Deportation, these are not topics framed to help the Trump campaign.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:20 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:20 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
I feel like Vance is saying "Margaret" a lot in some kind of weird attempt to seem like he doesn't loathe all women.
posted by TwoStride at 6:20 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by TwoStride at 6:20 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
What if the real deportations was all the friends Kamala let in along the way
posted by phunniemee at 6:20 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 6:20 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
The questions continue to be way harder than they gave to the Presidential candidates. Vance is very good at debating - makes sense, he did it more regularly. Many folks won’t know how batshit his ideas are. I think Walz is going to have to take him on directly at some point.
posted by corb at 6:20 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by corb at 6:20 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Yeah, hit 'em on tanking the bipartisan immigration deal!
posted by Reverend John at 6:21 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 6:21 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Vance will be running for president in 4 years regardless of what happens. He doesn’t want to be too much like Trump. Not that he can really shake it.
posted by Liquidwolf at 6:21 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by Liquidwolf at 6:21 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Good news guys I turned my computer upside down and smacked it a few times and it started up!
Percussive troubleshooting sometimes works on electronics. Could it work on politicians?
posted by otherchaz at 6:21 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Percussive troubleshooting sometimes works on electronics. Could it work on politicians?
posted by otherchaz at 6:21 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
I feel like Vance is saying "Margaret" a lot in some kind of weird attempt to seem like he doesn't loathe all women.
It's such slimy, used-car-salesman vibes.
posted by oc-to-po-des at 6:22 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
It's such slimy, used-car-salesman vibes.
posted by oc-to-po-des at 6:22 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
Border Czar! DRINK!
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:23 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:23 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
“Gov. Walz, do you want to respond to any of Sen Vance’s claims, including ‘Kamala Harris is conspiring with cartels and Satanists to turn widows and orphans into drug mules?’”
posted by leotrotsky at 6:23 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:23 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
Waltz keeps saying "Senator Vance" while Vance says "Tim."
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:25 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:25 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Half the country doesn’t care about dehumanizing others, though.
posted by terrierhead at 6:25 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:25 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
"What do you think about polls that show more than 50% of Americans support mass deportations?"
I'm glad you asked! More than 50% of Americans are buttholes. Next question?
posted by phunniemee at 6:25 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
I'm glad you asked! More than 50% of Americans are buttholes. Next question?
posted by phunniemee at 6:25 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Please, if you put something in quotes, say who said it. Is that real or a joke?
posted by njohnson23 at 6:25 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by njohnson23 at 6:25 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
So they’re not fact-checking, but they are queuing up those questions nicely. Climate Change, calls for Mass Deportation, these are not topics framed to help the Trump campaign.
I was just thinking about that, too.
But it really could work in Vance's favor if he plays it right -- he could add context, soften Trump's wacky absolutes, and establish himself as Trump's Adult In The Room. People who are legitimately concerned about Trump's troubling state of mind might feel reassured by a VP who could temper him. Eight years ago, that was one of the ways they were positioning Pence.
posted by mochapickle at 6:25 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
I was just thinking about that, too.
But it really could work in Vance's favor if he plays it right -- he could add context, soften Trump's wacky absolutes, and establish himself as Trump's Adult In The Room. People who are legitimately concerned about Trump's troubling state of mind might feel reassured by a VP who could temper him. Eight years ago, that was one of the ways they were positioning Pence.
posted by mochapickle at 6:25 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Margaret.
posted by tiny frying pan at 6:26 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by tiny frying pan at 6:26 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Look.
posted by tiny frying pan at 6:26 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by tiny frying pan at 6:26 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Look Margaret.
posted by tiny frying pan at 6:26 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by tiny frying pan at 6:26 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Sorry, it’s a slight paraphrase from one of the moderators, who are doing a pretty good job.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:26 PM on October 1
posted by leotrotsky at 6:26 PM on October 1
Bible verse. Drink?
posted by terrierhead at 6:27 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:27 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
I am really loving Walz in this. Vance is looking like an ass when he keeps calling him Tim where Walz keeps calling Vance Senator. And Walz is just cutting straight through the BS that Vance is throwing while also pegging some of his BS on Vance's view of Ohio. Vance should know the state he represents and he is just... maybe looking good to the always Trumpers, but probably not a lot of others, I think.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:27 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:27 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
turn off his mic!
posted by Reverend John at 6:27 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 6:27 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Walz, getting in the first Bible citation.
posted by coffeecat at 6:27 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by coffeecat at 6:27 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Cut his mic, Margaret.
posted by terrierhead at 6:27 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:27 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Mute this dipshit
posted by sucre at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by sucre at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Time to use the mute button.
posted by coffeecat at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by coffeecat at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Margaret. Margaret. Margaret.
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:28 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:28 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
THEY CUT HIS MIKE.
posted by gimonca at 6:28 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by gimonca at 6:28 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Uh yeah where’s the mute dammit
posted by Glinn at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Glinn at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
There they go.
posted by coffeecat at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by coffeecat at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Men love interrupting women and I am so here for them cutting their mics.
posted by corb at 6:28 PM on October 1 [23 favorites]
posted by corb at 6:28 PM on October 1 [23 favorites]
YAY MIC CUT
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:28 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:28 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
They muted the mics!
posted by otherchaz at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by otherchaz at 6:28 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
I think it's important to note that both candidates overrehearsed their quirky soundbites.
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:29 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:29 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Mute, drink?
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:29 PM on October 1
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:29 PM on October 1
Margaret, drink!
posted by mochapickle at 6:29 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by mochapickle at 6:29 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Edit - yes! Got it!
Walz, please hit this question. Pete has to have prepped this.
posted by terrierhead at 6:29 PM on October 1
Walz seems much more relaxed ,and a better speaker, when he's talking about domestic issues.
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:30 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:30 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Conservatives don't recognize Matthew as a book of the Bible. The Beatitudes are problematic for them.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:30 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:30 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
I am surprised Vance went with a pink tie. It looks good! I like color! But isn't it sort of... you know... pink?
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:31 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:31 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Yes, why didn’t she implement them with the vast powers of the …vice president?
posted by leotrotsky at 6:32 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:32 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Whenever he cites any numbers, Walz sounds like he's trying to sell me something in one of the state fair pavilions.
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:33 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:33 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Vance, Yale grad, shits on experts with PhDs for not having common sense or ‘wisdom’.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:33 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:33 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Ugh, I can't believe Trump & Vance keep coming back to Harris' "lack" of achievement during 3 1/2 years *when he was President for 4 and didn't address the same problems!*
posted by Reverend John at 6:33 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 6:33 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
Walz, please start calling him JD.
posted by terrierhead at 6:33 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:33 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
LoL don't listen to Economists and people with PHDs, just look at how I feel.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:33 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:33 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Maybe the pink tie, the slightly lighter blue jacket, the throwing in "I'm 40 years old" with no context is all supposed to make him seem young and fresh?
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:33 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:33 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Yes MENTION COVID don't let Trump ever let that down
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:34 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:34 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
I am surprised Vance went with a pink tie. It looks good! I like color! But isn't it sort of... you know... pink?
Pink ties are a Trump signature look. Not that shade, though, I guess.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:34 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Pink ties are a Trump signature look. Not that shade, though, I guess.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:34 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Ugh, I can't believe Trump & Vance keep coming back to Harris' "lack" of achievement during 3 1/2 years *when he was President for 4 and didn't address the same problems!*
He nailed this in his response.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:34 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
He nailed this in his response.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:34 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Vance lauds the ‘common sense wisdom’ of Donald Trump, man with a gold toilet.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:36 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:36 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
You heard it from JD, Don’t listen to experts.
posted by Liquidwolf at 6:36 PM on October 1
posted by Liquidwolf at 6:36 PM on October 1
can Walz just point and laugh or is that not helpful?
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:36 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:36 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Nobody has ever accused Donald Trump of having wisdom before tonight.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:36 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:36 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Good, making clear that you can't just talk about manufacturing without talking about unions.
posted by coffeecat at 6:36 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by coffeecat at 6:36 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Sen. N.T. Vaxx
posted by Rhaomi at 6:36 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Rhaomi at 6:36 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Walz, please start calling him JD.
I wonder if it’s the military tic of not wanting to give anyone a lesser title than they’ve earned.
posted by corb at 6:37 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
I wonder if it’s the military tic of not wanting to give anyone a lesser title than they’ve earned.
posted by corb at 6:37 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Vance is just lying... Fuck this dude.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:37 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:37 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Walz has him on content, but Vance sounds so polished. Morons are going to go for Vance on this.
Whack a mole to a Gish gallop.
posted by terrierhead at 6:37 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Whack a mole to a Gish gallop.
posted by terrierhead at 6:37 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
We had a manufacturing boom of high tech goods during the Obama administration. Trump managed to tank a lot of that by claiming trade wars were good. Letting that madness back into the Oval Office should be anathema to any pro-business voter.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:37 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:37 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Wtf vaccines are made by countries that hate us!?
posted by tarantula at 6:37 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by tarantula at 6:37 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Ugh he’s such a slimy toad
posted by Glinn at 6:38 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by Glinn at 6:38 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Maybe the pink tie, the slightly lighter blue jacket, the throwing in "I'm 40 years old" with no context is all supposed to make him seem young and fresh?
Omg, he's totally doing that! Throwing in all those little personal details -- it's like he's trying to fill up the public's mental dataset so we stop thinking about couches.
The whole pink tie intensity thing makes me feel like I'm being cornered at a college party by a Young Republican.
(and there he goes again, this time with a story about being raised by a woman who stuggled to put food on the table....)
posted by mochapickle at 6:38 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Omg, he's totally doing that! Throwing in all those little personal details -- it's like he's trying to fill up the public's mental dataset so we stop thinking about couches.
The whole pink tie intensity thing makes me feel like I'm being cornered at a college party by a Young Republican.
(and there he goes again, this time with a story about being raised by a woman who stuggled to put food on the table....)
posted by mochapickle at 6:38 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
It is advantageous for both Walz and Vance to treat Harris as if she was currently President, just saying. On the whole, Harris gains credibility because of that.
posted by Peach at 6:38 PM on October 1
posted by Peach at 6:38 PM on October 1
MY COMPUTER IS FINALLY WORKING
NOW COUCH FUCKER'S FACE IS VERY BIG
I HAVE REGRETS
posted by phunniemee at 6:38 PM on October 1 [18 favorites]
NOW COUCH FUCKER'S FACE IS VERY BIG
I HAVE REGRETS
posted by phunniemee at 6:38 PM on October 1 [18 favorites]
I think Vance sounds a little too polished, to be honest. He sounds like the slick consultant who shuts down the mill.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:38 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by leotrotsky at 6:38 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Damn, the *moderator* is going for the Tiananmen check?
posted by corb at 6:38 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by corb at 6:38 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
can Walz just point and laugh or is that not helpful?
Yeah no, it's not great that Walz looks forlorn and stressed out the whole time. (Ok when he's speaking, it's more when he's listening)
posted by coffeecat at 6:38 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Yeah no, it's not great that Walz looks forlorn and stressed out the whole time. (Ok when he's speaking, it's more when he's listening)
posted by coffeecat at 6:38 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Yall, this is rough.
posted by flamk at 6:39 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by flamk at 6:39 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Say "I misspoke on the Tiananmen thing" and move on.
posted by Reverend John at 6:39 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 6:39 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Walz's non-trip to Tiananmen is the most important issue facing Americans today
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:39 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:39 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Gov. Walz please just say that you screwed up when you were young and conflated the events of the news and your life. Just be human.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:40 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:40 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
For some reason Tim Walz gets a whole question about how he misstated when he was in Hong Kong by two months but JD Vance doesn't get a question about how he and his running mate turned the lives of people in Springfield into a living hell complete with bomb threats on kindergartens because they refused, despite pleas from city and state officials, to stop lying about Haitian immigrants eating cats and dogs.
posted by Method Man at 6:40 PM on October 1 [23 favorites]
posted by Method Man at 6:40 PM on October 1 [23 favorites]
Walz: “I’ve been a knucklehead at times.” +100 for authenticity.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:40 PM on October 1 [14 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:40 PM on October 1 [14 favorites]
I hate that this is true, and that the NYT broke this just now:
Tim Walz Said He Was in Hong Kong in 1989 During Tiananmen. Not True.
Not even adding the NYT link. Fuck them for dropping this right before the debate. It's upthread if anyone wants to find it.
Throwing a gotcha right before the debate is some fucking shit.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:40 PM on October 1 [13 favorites]
Tim Walz Said He Was in Hong Kong in 1989 During Tiananmen. Not True.
Not even adding the NYT link. Fuck them for dropping this right before the debate. It's upthread if anyone wants to find it.
Throwing a gotcha right before the debate is some fucking shit.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:40 PM on October 1 [13 favorites]
There you go, Walz. Own the gaffe.
Oof, though.
posted by terrierhead at 6:40 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Oof, though.
posted by terrierhead at 6:40 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
America's Hitler!!
posted by gimonca at 6:40 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by gimonca at 6:40 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Oofda
posted by tllaya at 6:40 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by tllaya at 6:40 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Painful
posted by flamk at 6:41 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by flamk at 6:41 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Wtf vaccines are made by countries that hate us!?
I think he means they're made in countries he hates.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:41 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I think he means they're made in countries he hates.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 6:41 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I didn't expect a moderator to say the word "hitler"
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:41 PM on October 1
posted by paper chromatographologist at 6:41 PM on October 1
Casual watchers, if there are any, are going to see Vance winning so far. Seemingly more composed and articulate.
posted by Rumple at 6:41 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by Rumple at 6:41 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Vance, you are a toadie, just be honest you kiss-ass bitch.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:42 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:42 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
WELL FIRST OF ALL MARGARET
posted by oc-to-po-des at 6:42 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by oc-to-po-des at 6:42 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Why does Walz look so sad?
posted by terrierhead at 6:42 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by terrierhead at 6:42 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Unfortunately, yup
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:42 PM on October 1
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:42 PM on October 1
I can't imagine there are more than five or six people in the world who a) are registered voters, b) haven't decided who to vote for and c) are watching this debate.
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:42 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:42 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Margaret!
(Why is he never addressing Norah?)
posted by mochapickle at 6:43 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
(Why is he never addressing Norah?)
posted by mochapickle at 6:43 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Trump had two years of Republican House and Senate. He was awful as a leader. Good for my positions but FFS why return to willful ineptitude?
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:43 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:43 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Seemingly more composed and articulate.
Suspiciously so. Check for an earpiece.
posted by Faint of Butt at 6:43 PM on October 1
Suspiciously so. Check for an earpiece.
posted by Faint of Butt at 6:43 PM on October 1
You've done so many interviews because you're more coherent than your damn boss who wants the oval office in the first place
posted by JoeXIII007 at 6:43 PM on October 1
posted by JoeXIII007 at 6:43 PM on October 1
Yeah I'm getting stressed out with Walz's worried frown and looking over/down a lot--it makes him seem very nervous and less leader-ly.
posted by TwoStride at 6:43 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by TwoStride at 6:43 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Suspiciously so. Check for an earpiece
Let’s not go all brain worm.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:44 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Let’s not go all brain worm.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:44 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
“That is ridiculous. No one supports that.”
C’Mon Walz
posted by terrierhead at 6:44 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
C’Mon Walz
posted by terrierhead at 6:44 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Why does Walz look so sad?
If I had to stand that close to Vance for a prolonged period of time I'd look sad, too.
posted by phunniemee at 6:45 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
If I had to stand that close to Vance for a prolonged period of time I'd look sad, too.
posted by phunniemee at 6:45 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
“Now the issue of reproductive rights.”
posted by box at 6:45 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by box at 6:45 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Why does Walz look so sad?
He has Resting Sad Face.
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:46 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
He has Resting Sad Face.
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:46 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
I'll admit I'm surprised at his performance so far - Walz is good with interviews, whether short or long-form. I know debates are different genres, but I'd figured he'd be a bit better. He's doing better as we go, but still.
posted by coffeecat at 6:46 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by coffeecat at 6:46 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
I can't imagine there are more than five or six people in the world who a) are registered voters, b) haven't decided who to vote for and c) are watching this debate.
Undecided voters don’t watch Vice Presidential debates. They’re busy eating paste and struggling to unzip their jackets.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:46 PM on October 1 [12 favorites]
Undecided voters don’t watch Vice Presidential debates. They’re busy eating paste and struggling to unzip their jackets.
posted by leotrotsky at 6:46 PM on October 1 [12 favorites]
Does anyone know what kind of family Vance grew up in? Was in working class?
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:47 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:47 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Why the hell would we trust Trump and Vance about this, ever?
posted by terrierhead at 6:47 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:47 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Weird gambit on abortion here
posted by kensington314 at 6:47 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by kensington314 at 6:47 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
What about contraception and family planning?
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:47 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:47 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Walz is wearing resting mid-westerner face
posted by JoeXIII007 at 6:47 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
posted by JoeXIII007 at 6:47 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
You're right, JD, Republicans do suck.
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:48 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:48 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Suspiciously so. Check for an earpiece
No, this is just the forum he’s most comfortable with, and I suspect he had no shortage of people to do debate prep with, and unlike Trump, was willing to actually do it. That abortion answer is so good it *must* have been practiced.
posted by corb at 6:48 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
No, this is just the forum he’s most comfortable with, and I suspect he had no shortage of people to do debate prep with, and unlike Trump, was willing to actually do it. That abortion answer is so good it *must* have been practiced.
posted by corb at 6:48 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
That was not a sad look, that was a Walz stare of outrage and shock.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:48 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:48 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I hope the woman he grew up with who had an abortion and confided in him goes and pisses on his house.
posted by phunniemee at 6:48 PM on October 1 [14 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 6:48 PM on October 1 [14 favorites]
Walz doing pretty good on this second pass at the abortion question
posted by kensington314 at 6:49 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by kensington314 at 6:49 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Why does Walz look so sad?
He genuinely cares about people and it hurts his heart to see the one he is debating just spew garbage to get elected whereas Walz actually wants to help people?
It can be tiring.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:49 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
He genuinely cares about people and it hurts his heart to see the one he is debating just spew garbage to get elected whereas Walz actually wants to help people?
It can be tiring.
posted by a non mouse, a cow herd at 6:49 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Vance confronted with his past quotes in favour of a national abortion ban, has the look of a confused dog.
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:50 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:50 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Vance: The GOP has a ton of work to do to earn back trust when it comes to reproductive issues.
Which, that's genuinely a great, candid answer. If the GOP supported healthcare, childcare, education, equal pay, affordable housing, community health, etc., it would in fact be a lot easier to trust them.
posted by mochapickle at 6:50 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Which, that's genuinely a great, candid answer. If the GOP supported healthcare, childcare, education, equal pay, affordable housing, community health, etc., it would in fact be a lot easier to trust them.
posted by mochapickle at 6:50 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Hey Vance, there is no such thing as a partial-birth abortion.
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:50 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 6:50 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Vance confronted with his past quotes in favour of a national abortion ban, has the look of a confused dog.
Will No One Eat This Dog?
posted by phunniemee at 6:51 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Will No One Eat This Dog?
posted by phunniemee at 6:51 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
I'm pro-abortion! It is a reasonable position! Abortion is health care!
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:51 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:51 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Oh, Vance heard us and he's talking to Norah now.
posted by mochapickle at 6:52 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by mochapickle at 6:52 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
I want Walz to say that it’s idiocy to believe partial birth abortions are a thing.
posted by terrierhead at 6:52 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by terrierhead at 6:52 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Huh, I agree with Vance, there are a lot of people out there who should still be alive.
posted by coffeecat at 6:52 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by coffeecat at 6:52 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Vance: "A majority of my own constituents [told me to go fuck myself], and I thought that was a good thing."
Great! Let's keep doing that.
posted by Rhaomi at 6:52 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Great! Let's keep doing that.
posted by Rhaomi at 6:52 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
YES FORCE CATHOLIC HOSPITALS TO PROVIDE ABORTIONS
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:52 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 6:52 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Oh thank god. (commercial break)
posted by Reverend John at 6:53 PM on October 1
posted by Reverend John at 6:53 PM on October 1
Vance is terrible in front of a crowd, but this controlled highly artificial and strained format plays to his strengths. Walz is more personable and could have used a crowd.
posted by otherchaz at 6:53 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by otherchaz at 6:53 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Vance: “We need to make this country more pro-baby.”
I… what?
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:54 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I… what?
posted by Capt. Renault at 6:54 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I’m worried about commentary on this debate. The left loves to throw itself under the bus.
posted by terrierhead at 6:55 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 6:55 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
God. Walz, just give him where he’s wrong on the law. Don’t let him play you like this. This is fucking painful. “Someone else fact checked that” {paraphrase} is not the way to go.
posted by corb at 6:55 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by corb at 6:55 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
It is very hard to check blatant lies. There are no sections of the statute that specifically say what the law is not about.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:56 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 6:56 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
We're better with being honest with ourselves. Problem is doing that publicly looks like throwing ourselves under the bus.
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:57 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 6:57 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
30ish minutes to go... must ... hold ... on ...
posted by Reverend John at 6:58 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 6:58 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
This is a draw so far. There's an opportunity cost--ideally the goal ought to be to convince red voters to stay home. Probably not going to move the needle either way. It's not terrible, but it's not going to gain the good guys any ground.
Hopefully the bit that turns up on SNL is the part where Vance goes wack attacking the moderator and gets his mic cut off.
posted by gimonca at 6:59 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Hopefully the bit that turns up on SNL is the part where Vance goes wack attacking the moderator and gets his mic cut off.
posted by gimonca at 6:59 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Hooray, gun violence! Vance can talk about more people who should still be alive today!
posted by phunniemee at 6:59 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 6:59 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Jeez, the ad buys on this thing are fucking idiotic
Babes, y'all all gotta get on this cspan train
posted by phunniemee at 7:00 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Babes, y'all all gotta get on this cspan train
posted by phunniemee at 7:00 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Hold up, I thought the talk of him having children was a joke. Who would do that to themselves?
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:00 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:00 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Vance: Let's turn schools into prisons, for safety!
posted by mochapickle at 7:00 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 7:00 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
The mass shooters’ guns were legally obtained.
posted by terrierhead at 7:00 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 7:00 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
School Resource Officers!? This MF'er is a idiot.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:01 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:01 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Let’s MAKE THE DOORS STRONGER. Jfc
posted by sucre at 7:01 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by sucre at 7:01 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
yeah stronger windows are definitely going to stop school shootings, A+ plan there
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:01 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:01 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
God. Walz, just give him where he’s wrong on the law. Don’t let him play you like this. This is fucking painful. “Someone else fact checked that” {paraphrase} is not the way to go.
I suspect the thing is that the law DOESN'T say the doctor has to provide life-saving treatment etc. etc. if the baby is somehow born in the case of an abortion because A) That's not actually a thing and B) There's no reason that would have to be in the law because if a baby were somehow born it would be a person with all the legal rights of any other person and would then be covered by whatever other laws are relevant (manslaughter, medical neglect, etc. etc.) so that doesn't need to be in the abortion law itself. So it's not LEGAL to just let the hypothetical magic baby die, but it IS technically true that the law doesn't SAY you have to save the baby.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 7:01 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
I suspect the thing is that the law DOESN'T say the doctor has to provide life-saving treatment etc. etc. if the baby is somehow born in the case of an abortion because A) That's not actually a thing and B) There's no reason that would have to be in the law because if a baby were somehow born it would be a person with all the legal rights of any other person and would then be covered by whatever other laws are relevant (manslaughter, medical neglect, etc. etc.) so that doesn't need to be in the abortion law itself. So it's not LEGAL to just let the hypothetical magic baby die, but it IS technically true that the law doesn't SAY you have to save the baby.
posted by If only I had a penguin... at 7:01 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Make the doors stronger!
Make the windows stronger!
Make the gun laws stronger!
Two truths and a lie!
posted by phunniemee at 7:01 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Make the windows stronger!
Make the gun laws stronger!
Two truths and a lie!
posted by phunniemee at 7:01 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
The mass shooters’ guns were legally obtained.
What, reality was supposed to be part of his answer.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:02 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
What, reality was supposed to be part of his answer.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:02 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
YES BRING UP THE BAN ON RESEARCHING GUN VIOLENCE
signed,
Elizabeth Warren
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:02 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
signed,
Elizabeth Warren
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:02 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
I want Walz to call Vance out on being a slick sleazy lawyer with no heart.
posted by theora55 at 7:03 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by theora55 at 7:03 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
YES YES YES Walz has my vote just for his reaction to the talk about school gun violence
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:03 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:03 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
Baaaarffff, JD
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:03 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:03 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Hold up, I thought the talk of him having children was a joke.
He has two ottomans and a very cute footstool. He's very proud.
posted by mochapickle at 7:03 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
He has two ottomans and a very cute footstool. He's very proud.
posted by mochapickle at 7:03 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
Why is that, JD? Why do we have worse mental health?
Hint: economic disparities.
posted by terrierhead at 7:04 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Hint: economic disparities.
posted by terrierhead at 7:04 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Zero percent of the lockdowns that my kids went through during their school years happened in a big city.
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:05 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:05 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Look, what you have to understand is that Finland, where they have comprehensive public healthcare options, has better mental health than America.
posted by phunniemee at 7:05 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 7:05 PM on October 1 [10 favorites]
Why is that, JD? Why do we have worse mental health?
The failure to adopt a single payer system?
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:05 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
The failure to adopt a single payer system?
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:05 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
"It's just the guns." I heart Walz
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:06 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:06 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
You know what's an even bigger piece of it, JD? The fact that there are more pieces than people.
posted by Rhaomi at 7:06 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Rhaomi at 7:06 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Vance blinking furiously in disbelief, wondering how he’s been outflanked on religious drops.
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:06 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:06 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Walz missed a big opportunity there to tie Vance to the types of investment firms that treat housing as a commodity.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:07 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:07 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Universal healthcare would do us all so much good, and Republicans will never have it happen.
posted by terrierhead at 7:07 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 7:07 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
> Look, what you have to understand is that Finland, where they have comprehensive public healthcare options, has better mental health than America
Their southern border wall must be stronger than ours.
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:07 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Their southern border wall must be stronger than ours.
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:07 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Hopefully the bit that turns up on SNL is the part where Vance goes wack attacking the moderator and gets his mic cut off.
I kind of feel like I've been watching a particularly unfunny SNL rendition this whole time.
Probably it's the Nora/Margaret shtick in which both of the candidate's answers are dismissed before the segue to the next question.
"The overwhelming scientific consensus is that the sky is, in fact, blue. Now, moving on to the 2+2 issue. Margaret?"
posted by snuffleupagus at 7:07 PM on October 1
I kind of feel like I've been watching a particularly unfunny SNL rendition this whole time.
Probably it's the Nora/Margaret shtick in which both of the candidate's answers are dismissed before the segue to the next question.
"The overwhelming scientific consensus is that the sky is, in fact, blue. Now, moving on to the 2+2 issue. Margaret?"
posted by snuffleupagus at 7:07 PM on October 1
Okay Vance, WTF?
posted by terrierhead at 7:08 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by terrierhead at 7:08 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
So it's not LEGAL to just let the hypothetical magic baby die, but it IS technically true that the law doesn't SAY you have to save the baby.
“We didn’t need to put that in that specific statute, because doctors already have a legal duty of care to all children born in Minnesota” because again, I would be shocked if somehow the duty of care is different in Minnesota than everywhere else.
But really I think the thing I’m frustrated with Walz on is that Vance is using these very obvious debate/law school tactics, that had to be predictable, and it doesn’t seem like he practiced his answers to the most likely attacks.
posted by corb at 7:09 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
“We didn’t need to put that in that specific statute, because doctors already have a legal duty of care to all children born in Minnesota” because again, I would be shocked if somehow the duty of care is different in Minnesota than everywhere else.
But really I think the thing I’m frustrated with Walz on is that Vance is using these very obvious debate/law school tactics, that had to be predictable, and it doesn’t seem like he practiced his answers to the most likely attacks.
posted by corb at 7:09 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
If I didn't already live in the best city in the country, I'd be paking my wagon tomorrow and moving to Minnesota. Tim's doing a great job hyping his state today.
posted by phunniemee at 7:09 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 7:09 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
Why do we have worse mental health?
The Deaths of Despair graph maps pretty neatly to the Reagan uncoupling of labor earnings from wealth accretion amongst the rich. So a better healthcare system is not going to turn that ship around all the way.
posted by Slackermagee at 7:09 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
The Deaths of Despair graph maps pretty neatly to the Reagan uncoupling of labor earnings from wealth accretion amongst the rich. So a better healthcare system is not going to turn that ship around all the way.
posted by Slackermagee at 7:09 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
The VP has legislative power outside of breaking tie votes in the Senate? Wow, I know that is bats#!t.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:09 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:09 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
We should be taking homes from hedge funds and investment firms.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:10 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:10 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Pave our national parks so we can build starter castles!
posted by gimonca at 7:10 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by gimonca at 7:10 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
If Trump suddenly cares about energy efficiency, new single-family units in new developments are not the way to go.
posted by terrierhead at 7:11 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by terrierhead at 7:11 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Oh my god, Vance’s self-satisfied smirk. Normally only seen by Chesterfields.
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:11 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:11 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Thank you Walz!
posted by terrierhead at 7:13 PM on October 1
posted by terrierhead at 7:13 PM on October 1
Vance: Illegals are taking up all the housing.
posted by mochapickle at 7:13 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 7:13 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
We should be building more three to five story multi-family housing in urban areas and maintaining high standards of construction and maintenance.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:14 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:14 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I think the problem is we all want Tim to score points and figuratively smack him down. But he is a nice guy who is trying to take Vance seriously.
posted by Glinn at 7:14 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
posted by Glinn at 7:14 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
Vance's family with preexisting conditions got off Medicaid and onto private insurance for the first time under Trump's presidency. Thanks, Obama.
posted by phunniemee at 7:15 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 7:15 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Trump is responsible for the Affordable Care Act? Damn, I fell through some kind of warp.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:15 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:15 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Vance’s answers are in a bullshit feedback loop. Daisy, Daisy…
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:16 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:16 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Chat, did Trump actually save Obamacare?
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:16 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:16 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Single Payer Now
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
My streaming service keeps throwing a “fatal error” which strongly mirrors my own feelings here.
posted by jeoc at 7:17 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by jeoc at 7:17 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I think the problem is we all want Tim to score points and figuratively smack him down. But he is a nice guy who is trying to take Vance seriously.
To use a football metaphor, Walz just has to play a prevent defense tonight. No big gaffes or moments that can help swing momentum back to Trump.
posted by azpenguin at 7:17 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
To use a football metaphor, Walz just has to play a prevent defense tonight. No big gaffes or moments that can help swing momentum back to Trump.
posted by azpenguin at 7:17 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Single Payer Now
Thoughts and Payers is the Republican plan concept
posted by phunniemee at 7:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Thoughts and Payers is the Republican plan concept
posted by phunniemee at 7:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
>Chat, did Trump actually save Obamacare?
I'm gonna have to say no
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
I'm gonna have to say no
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:17 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Trump saved Obamacare by alienating John McCain enough that he gave Trump a final "fuck you" before he died.
posted by Reverend John at 7:18 PM on October 1 [19 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 7:18 PM on October 1 [19 favorites]
Too much of Vance lying without consequences.
I suspect that James Carville probably isn't the most popular political figure around these parts, I got my problems with him, but he had a maxim: "If you see your opponent drowning, throw the sumbitch an anchor." We could use a little more of that.
posted by gimonca at 7:19 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
I suspect that James Carville probably isn't the most popular political figure around these parts, I got my problems with him, but he had a maxim: "If you see your opponent drowning, throw the sumbitch an anchor." We could use a little more of that.
posted by gimonca at 7:19 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Trump saved Obamacare by alienating John McCain enough that he gave Trump a final "fuck you" before he died.
This, a thousand times, this.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:19 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
This, a thousand times, this.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:19 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
This would be a nice time to say, simply and clearly, that everything Vance is saying about Trump and Obamacare is pure horseshit.
posted by nobody at 7:19 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
posted by nobody at 7:19 PM on October 1 [5 favorites]
Vance needs to check his notes. One of the reasons the ACA was struggling was because certain red states declined federal funding, declined expansion, just to make it fail.
posted by mochapickle at 7:19 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 7:19 PM on October 1 [9 favorites]
Margaret. Margaret.
It helps if you repeat it in Hawkeye Pierce’s voice. MARGARET.
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:21 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
It helps if you repeat it in Hawkeye Pierce’s voice. MARGARET.
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:21 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Will Vance be stupid enough here to say have Grandma watch the kids? Probably not but we can dream.
posted by phunniemee at 7:21 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 7:21 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
NYT: Vance’s Dominant Debate Performance Shows Why He’s Trump’s Running Mate
because why wait for it to be finished?
posted by Rumple at 7:23 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
because why wait for it to be finished?
posted by Rumple at 7:23 PM on October 1 [11 favorites]
Really wish the Dem ticket actually had a __ days paid leave policy they were running on, regarding this section of the debate
posted by kensington314 at 7:23 PM on October 1
posted by kensington314 at 7:23 PM on October 1
Waltz should have torn Vance's face off on the '40 years' bit -- you mean 40 years of trickle down economics, stagnant wages, privatizing gains and dumping costs on the commons by outstripping regulation? Packing the judiciary with Federalist judges who predictably rule for elites and against everyday people? etc.
If Vance's move is to saddle Harris with her predecessors' neoliberalism, then they can answer to the GOP's neo-conservatism and equally unabashed willingness to optimize and offshore to make the line go up.
posted by snuffleupagus at 7:23 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
If Vance's move is to saddle Harris with her predecessors' neoliberalism, then they can answer to the GOP's neo-conservatism and equally unabashed willingness to optimize and offshore to make the line go up.
posted by snuffleupagus at 7:23 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Vance: I only care about issues that relate directly to myself, my family, and people I know.
posted by mochapickle at 7:24 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 7:24 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Does anyone know how many kids Vance has?
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:24 PM on October 1
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:24 PM on October 1
NYT: Vance’s Dominant Debate Performance Shows Why He’s Trump’s Running Mate
because why wait for it to be finished?
Style over substance, it is the NYT way.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:24 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
because why wait for it to be finished?
Style over substance, it is the NYT way.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:24 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
No woman wants to go to work immediately after giving birth, you dunce.
posted by terrierhead at 7:24 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by terrierhead at 7:24 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Since he just brought up his wife, I was on a girls trip last week with a handful of women who went to high school with Usha and they're all so distraught.
posted by phunniemee at 7:24 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 7:24 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
Vouchers for childcare? Is that what he's saying?
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:25 PM on October 1
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:25 PM on October 1
Does anyone know if Vance has a wife who he says he finds attractive?
posted by terrierhead at 7:25 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by terrierhead at 7:25 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Why is it every time a Republican says "choice" they mean the opposite?
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:25 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:25 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Vance: I only care about issues that relate directly to myself, my family, and people I know.
That is the basic premise of almost all conservatives and reactionaries.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:25 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
That is the basic premise of almost all conservatives and reactionaries.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:25 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Peeeenalizing. Margaret.
posted by mochapickle at 7:26 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 7:26 PM on October 1 [4 favorites]
Walz might have resting disappointed face but I prefer that to Vance's resting smirk.
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:26 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:26 PM on October 1 [7 favorites]
Vance is not being reminded enough that his, and his party's, platforms are mostly cribbed from the Handmaid's Tale.
posted by gimonca at 7:26 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by gimonca at 7:26 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Oh, isn't it time for closing statements?
posted by Reverend John at 7:27 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by Reverend John at 7:27 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Peeeenalizing is how he got his 3 children amirite
posted by phunniemee at 7:27 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 7:27 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
I have seen Vance’s patronizing, dismissive look at the women moderators in so many of my bosses.
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:27 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:27 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Why is it every time a Republican says "choice" they mean the opposite?
"We have money and can afford to be hypocrites but inflict our moral purity on the poors." This also applies to those deluded enough to believe that they will become rich.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:27 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
"We have money and can afford to be hypocrites but inflict our moral purity on the poors." This also applies to those deluded enough to believe that they will become rich.
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:27 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
someone ban phunniemee
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:28 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:28 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Oooh, wait, a last question about Trump's election lies? OK! I'll hang in there!
posted by Reverend John at 7:28 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 7:28 PM on October 1 [3 favorites]
"I'll answer your question because you did ask it" ... gosh, thanks JD!
posted by Reverend John at 7:29 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 7:29 PM on October 1 [6 favorites]
Did he just call Margaret Laura?
posted by mochapickle at 7:29 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by mochapickle at 7:29 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Laura?
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:30 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:30 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
> Did he just call Margaret Laura?
yup
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:30 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
yup
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:30 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Don’t let him dodge this. C’mon Walz.
TFG sent a mob to the Capitol chanting Hang Mike Pence.
posted by terrierhead at 7:30 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
TFG sent a mob to the Capitol chanting Hang Mike Pence.
posted by terrierhead at 7:30 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Debate peacefully! In the public square! You know the one, where they hang people! Meet you there!
posted by phunniemee at 7:30 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by phunniemee at 7:30 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Vance, shut your lying face you fascist
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:31 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by MrBobaFett at 7:31 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
Biden was mentioned! 10:31 pm! Holy shit.
(Mentioned second to Harris, but still.)
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:31 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
(Mentioned second to Harris, but still.)
posted by Capt. Renault at 7:31 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Censorship? No one can shut these asses the hell up!
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:31 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Ignorantsavage at 7:31 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
Vouchers for childcare? Is that what he's saying?
Either that or the tax credit, yeah. I think possibly pushing for religious schools to be included in any childcare plan.
posted by corb at 7:31 PM on October 1
Either that or the tax credit, yeah. I think possibly pushing for religious schools to be included in any childcare plan.
posted by corb at 7:31 PM on October 1
They're all basically the same name
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:31 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:31 PM on October 1 [1 favorite]
"Kamala Harris is a threat to democracy because she wants to censor disinformation" is something...
posted by Reverend John at 7:31 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
posted by Reverend John at 7:31 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
ooof I don't know if that RFK Jr endorsement is the win you think it is, buddy
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:31 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
posted by The corpse in the library at 7:31 PM on October 1 [8 favorites]
"Didn"
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:32 PM on October 1
posted by DeepSeaHaggis at 7:32 PM on October 1
They're all basically the same name
If this were an hour longer, he'd just end up calling them both Sister Uterus.
posted by mochapickle at 7:33 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
If this were an hour longer, he'd just end up calling them both Sister Uterus.
posted by mochapickle at 7:33 PM on October 1 [2 favorites]
He's said "Laura" instead of "Norah" a couple of times so far.
posted by oc-to-po-des at 7:33 PM on October 1
posted by oc-to-po-des at 7:33 PM on October 1
Beat him in the parking lot, Walz.
posted by terrierhead at 7:34 PM on October 1
posted by terrierhead at 7:34 PM on October 1
"Trump left peacefully on January 20th" ... after his coup attempt on Jan. 6th failed.
posted by Reverend John at 7:34 PM on October 1
posted by Reverend John at 7:34 PM on October 1
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Tried to make a title work with some variant on "Coach-Father vs Couch-Fucker" but couldn't make it happen.
posted by phunniemee at 1:41 PM on October 1 [19 favorites]