Grimm: Bad Luck
March 20, 2015 7:14 PM - Season 4, Episode 14 - Subscribe
A murder victim missing a foot leads Hank and Nick to a disturbing discovery; Rosalee and Monroe go undercover to assist with the investigation; after Adalind and Juliette's showdown Nick is sent down a path towards Henrietta.
I suppose they have to do something with Claire Coffee‘s real-life pregnancy, which was pretty obvious in this ep, but I'm not at all thrilled. Still, I'm glad to have the show back. Rosalie was awesome, as usual. I think the Juliet reveal was handled pretty realistically, Nick is going to need some time to come to terms with things. It would have been silly if he'd just suddenly been super-ok with dating a hexenbeist. I'll reserve judgment on that until a few more episodes have passed.
posted by backwards compatible at 8:32 AM on March 21, 2015
posted by backwards compatible at 8:32 AM on March 21, 2015
I really liked the gender reversal of the classic horror opening, with the girl all "c'mon, let's have the sex, I even got you a blanket and this stupid romantic candle" and the boy saying, "Wait, did you hear something?!" I was waiting for her to grope him and have him move her hand northward, or for her to explain that it hurts girls physically if they get turned on and don't have an orgasm.
Juliet herself isn't totally okay with being a hexenbiest yet, and she's had time to get used to it. It's a little unkind to demand that Nick be perfectly fine with kissing her hexenbiest face when she can't even look at her own hexenbiest hand without flinching. Still, she's going through some stuff, so I'll give her a little leeway for being freaked out.
<3 <3 <3 Rosalie. She's my TV wife spirit animal.
posted by kythuen at 9:00 AM on March 21, 2015 [2 favorites]
Juliet herself isn't totally okay with being a hexenbiest yet, and she's had time to get used to it. It's a little unkind to demand that Nick be perfectly fine with kissing her hexenbiest face when she can't even look at her own hexenbiest hand without flinching. Still, she's going through some stuff, so I'll give her a little leeway for being freaked out.
<3 <3 <3 Rosalie. She's my TV wife spirit animal.
posted by kythuen at 9:00 AM on March 21, 2015 [2 favorites]
It was a pretty good ep, good main story with a good dose of continuing plot. Thoroughly satisfying.
What's the timeline on Adalind's pregnancy? Real time it's been 10 months, since Adalind+Nick.
posted by FallowKing at 9:13 AM on March 21, 2015
What's the timeline on Adalind's pregnancy? Real time it's been 10 months, since Adalind+Nick.
posted by FallowKing at 9:13 AM on March 21, 2015
What's the timeline on Adalind's pregnancy?
MAGIC.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 9:42 AM on March 21, 2015 [7 favorites]
MAGIC.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 9:42 AM on March 21, 2015 [7 favorites]
I am terrible at spotting IRL pregnancies in shows. Though I did notice the gigantic coat. Makes sense now.
posted by Ik ben afgesneden at 9:50 AM on March 21, 2015
posted by Ik ben afgesneden at 9:50 AM on March 21, 2015
I was already idly wondering about this with the Monrosalee trip to the fertility clinic, and then they came along with the Adalind's next baby reveal - do we know how Wessen genetics work, as far as crossbreeding goes? Would Adalind's new baby be a Hexenbiest, or a Grimm, or some kind of super-badass Hexengrimm? Hexenbiest if it's a girl, Grimm if it's a boy? I suppose if they haven't addressed it yet they will pretty soon.
posted by mstokes650 at 10:53 AM on March 21, 2015
posted by mstokes650 at 10:53 AM on March 21, 2015
OK, maybe I'm being wessenist here, but wouldn't most people expect a Hexenbiest to know whether she's with child? That, plus some other events... I'm thinking Adalind just isn't a very _good_ Hexenbiest.
posted by amtho at 10:58 AM on March 21, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by amtho at 10:58 AM on March 21, 2015 [2 favorites]
do we know how Wessen genetics work, as far as crossbreeding goes?
The child should be human/(hexen,zauber)biest hybrid like Sean Renard.
Grimminess is inherited at the time of a family members passing. Nick or his mother would need to die for the child to become a grimm.
posted by FallowKing at 12:29 PM on March 21, 2015
The child should be human/(hexen,zauber)biest hybrid like Sean Renard.
Grimminess is inherited at the time of a family members passing. Nick or his mother would need to die for the child to become a grimm.
posted by FallowKing at 12:29 PM on March 21, 2015
So Wu's pretty much fully on-board now; and seems to be the designated Smart One of the team. He went straight to "lucky rabbit's foot"; and seems to have a better recall of the trailer books than Nick does.
I still think he should be angrier about Nick and Hank keeping him in the dark for so long and at such high cost to his mental health. But hey.
With Adalind's pregnancy, this officially became a soap opera. Very amusing.
It always kind of was, wasn't it?
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 1:22 PM on March 21, 2015
I still think he should be angrier about Nick and Hank keeping him in the dark for so long and at such high cost to his mental health. But hey.
With Adalind's pregnancy, this officially became a soap opera. Very amusing.
It always kind of was, wasn't it?
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 1:22 PM on March 21, 2015
This episode seemed fractured to me with all the story lines staying completely separate.
Nick finds out Juliette is a Hexenbeast and says nothing‽ And why hasn't she told Rosalee yet?
Monroe, Rosalee, Hank, and Wu being in the dark feels like the setup for a terrible misunderstanding.
posted by zinon at 2:16 PM on March 21, 2015
Nick finds out Juliette is a Hexenbeast and says nothing‽ And why hasn't she told Rosalee yet?
Monroe, Rosalee, Hank, and Wu being in the dark feels like the setup for a terrible misunderstanding.
posted by zinon at 2:16 PM on March 21, 2015
Sometime during Juliette & Nick's scene, I found myself wondering what a Grimm/Hexenbiest baby would be like. I mean, they'd already be able to see wesen and have magic powers, so what would they actually gain by coming into their Grimm abilities? How would they know they had? So, it was funny to me that Adalind is getting another superbaby. At this point, I kinda hope that she and Reynard get back together somehow.
posted by oh yeah! at 5:22 AM on March 22, 2015
posted by oh yeah! at 5:22 AM on March 22, 2015
I'm surprised and disappointed that Juliette had no reaction to seeing Nick as a Grimm for the first time. Considering Monroe's description:
It's your eyes. They turn black. Black's too weak a word. It's more like infinite darkness. And we see ourselves reflected in that darkness, we see our true wessen nature. It's actually very unsettling.posted by zinon at 6:36 AM on March 22, 2015 [1 favorite]
Juliette's not afraid of anything anymore.
posted by amtho at 7:41 AM on March 22, 2015 [3 favorites]
posted by amtho at 7:41 AM on March 22, 2015 [3 favorites]
The wiki doesn't say anything about an older Grimm needing to die for a younger Grimm to gain powers, just that Grimm inheritance isn't well-understood.
posted by Small Dollar at 12:53 PM on March 22, 2015
posted by Small Dollar at 12:53 PM on March 22, 2015
I've said it before in Grimm threads, but, the thing about a wiki is that anyone can edit. It's the nature of the beast. So any entry in the Grimm wiki could be the result of a fan conducting painstaking research by re-watching episodes and grabbing every drip of info that comes out of the show creators & staff in press releases and interviews . . . . . . or it could be someone with an overactive imagination and poor reading/watching comprehension skills basically making shit up. Or anything in between or some combination.
Not a specific dig against you, Small Dollar - just that, y'know, the wiki is possibly not much more informed about things than any of us are or could be with re-watching a few episodes. It's not like the articles are vetted by the show creators and drawn directly from the show bible. I, personally, would not consider it any kind of infallible resource, especially for things that are not specifically stated in an episode.
Having said that, IMO the show has been very vague about breeding & genetics among the Wesen - probably so they don't paint themselves into a corner. (Note that the Wesen-helping fertility doctor didn't bat an eye when Monroe & Rosalee woged in front of him and thus displayed that two different "species" of Wesen were looking to interbreed.) Honestly, I suspect tmotat is right when they say, "MAGIC." As in, what happens will happen due to whatever the plot or character development needs, and any question of biology will be "explained" as vaguely and handwavingly as possible.
I'm OK with this.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:26 PM on March 22, 2015 [1 favorite]
Not a specific dig against you, Small Dollar - just that, y'know, the wiki is possibly not much more informed about things than any of us are or could be with re-watching a few episodes. It's not like the articles are vetted by the show creators and drawn directly from the show bible. I, personally, would not consider it any kind of infallible resource, especially for things that are not specifically stated in an episode.
Having said that, IMO the show has been very vague about breeding & genetics among the Wesen - probably so they don't paint themselves into a corner. (Note that the Wesen-helping fertility doctor didn't bat an eye when Monroe & Rosalee woged in front of him and thus displayed that two different "species" of Wesen were looking to interbreed.) Honestly, I suspect tmotat is right when they say, "MAGIC." As in, what happens will happen due to whatever the plot or character development needs, and any question of biology will be "explained" as vaguely and handwavingly as possible.
I'm OK with this.
posted by soundguy99 at 6:26 PM on March 22, 2015 [1 favorite]
With Adalind's pregnancy, this officially became a soap opera.
Yah, but at least it's a soap that's got a sense of humor about what's going on, and doesn't utterly rely on everyone keeping secrets from everyone else.
OK, maybe I'm being wessenist here, but wouldn't most people expect a Hexenbiest to know whether she's with child? That, plus some other events... I'm thinking Adalind just isn't a very _good_ Hexenbiest.
My take is that Adalind has (or had) a lot of natural talent, which makes her lazy and sloppy when it comes to actually using her abilities. (No need to learn how to dot all the i's and cross the t's when you can just brute power your way through.) Plus she's such a self-absorbed wreck (constantly on the lookout for whatever will give her an advantage towards reaching whatever her goal at the moment is) that she just semi-consciously ignored whatever signs of pregnancy she might've had. "Gotta find my baby, no time to be sick in the morning, no time to go yell at last night's restaurant for giving me bad food . . . . . "
posted by soundguy99 at 6:41 PM on March 22, 2015
Yah, but at least it's a soap that's got a sense of humor about what's going on, and doesn't utterly rely on everyone keeping secrets from everyone else.
OK, maybe I'm being wessenist here, but wouldn't most people expect a Hexenbiest to know whether she's with child? That, plus some other events... I'm thinking Adalind just isn't a very _good_ Hexenbiest.
My take is that Adalind has (or had) a lot of natural talent, which makes her lazy and sloppy when it comes to actually using her abilities. (No need to learn how to dot all the i's and cross the t's when you can just brute power your way through.) Plus she's such a self-absorbed wreck (constantly on the lookout for whatever will give her an advantage towards reaching whatever her goal at the moment is) that she just semi-consciously ignored whatever signs of pregnancy she might've had. "Gotta find my baby, no time to be sick in the morning, no time to go yell at last night's restaurant for giving me bad food . . . . . "
posted by soundguy99 at 6:41 PM on March 22, 2015
Note that the Wesen-helping fertility doctor didn't bat an eye when Monroe & Rosalee woged in front of him and thus displayed that two different "species" of Wesen were looking to interbreed.
Yes, I noticed that too. But yet: the books in the trailer suggest that Wesen types are pretty stable over time; at least over recorded Grimm history. Maybe that's more due to the inter-marriage taboo that Monroe and Rosalee faced than about any strong speciation.
Also, yes, plot-necessary magic/handwaving.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 11:06 PM on March 22, 2015
Yes, I noticed that too. But yet: the books in the trailer suggest that Wesen types are pretty stable over time; at least over recorded Grimm history. Maybe that's more due to the inter-marriage taboo that Monroe and Rosalee faced than about any strong speciation.
Also, yes, plot-necessary magic/handwaving.
posted by We had a deal, Kyle at 11:06 PM on March 22, 2015
I've said it before in Grimm threads, but, the thing about a wiki is that anyone can edit.
Everyone can doesn't mean everyone should. -- Ratatouiest, the newest revealed Wesen.
posted by phearlez at 6:35 AM on March 23, 2015
Everyone can doesn't mean everyone should. -- Ratatouiest, the newest revealed Wesen.
posted by phearlez at 6:35 AM on March 23, 2015
Seeing Monroe get all grar and about to defend Rosalee's honor or whatever and then she lays the smackdown herself makes me feel like someone just covered me in puppies.
posted by phearlez at 9:05 AM on March 23, 2015 [6 favorites]
posted by phearlez at 9:05 AM on March 23, 2015 [6 favorites]
The wiki does put down what I remember from the show though: some come into the power and some don't, and females are more likely to come into it earlier than males. Nothing about anyone having to die first, though I wouldn't be surprised if that was a sometimes trigger. Aren't we still waiting to see if that guy Trubel ran off with is going to come into it or not?
posted by jenfullmoon at 9:09 AM on March 25, 2015
posted by jenfullmoon at 9:09 AM on March 25, 2015
You're a dick, Nick.
posted by homunculus at 5:17 PM on March 25, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by homunculus at 5:17 PM on March 25, 2015 [1 favorite]
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posted by Ik ben afgesneden at 8:17 PM on March 20, 2015 [2 favorites]