Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
August 2, 2015 3:47 PM - Season 2, Episode 10 -
A new species is looking for a new home.
(9 comments total)
Trek-related trivia: Walter Koenig's son Andrew plays the Skrreean woman's hotheaded son Tumak, and William Schallert, who was an uptight bureaucrat in the original Trouble with Tribbles, plays a Bajoran musician. Kitty Swink, who plays a Bajoran politician, is Armin Shimerman's wife.
I enjoyed the portrayal of a fully matriarchal society in which men are excluded from serious decision-making because they're regarded as too emotional. And I liked the unresolved ending: maybe Haneek was right, maybe Bajor would have benefited if it had welcomed the Skrreeans.
on August 2, 2015 [
I liked this better than the previous episode. Maybe I just went into it with very low expectations based on zarq's comment in the previous thread that we were getting three clunkers in a row.
I think the matriarchal-society portrayal was done well, mainly because it was secondary to the main plot and not the focus of the episode. It was there to give Kira more screen-time with Haneek so that their last scene had more meaning, and to give a motive for the Skrreean young men to be so hot-headed.
I loved Quark breaking up the fight between the Skrreean boys & Rom. So far, in most physical confrontations Quark has been outmatched and relied on his wits; I don't know if there's a Rule of Acquisition that covers it, but it seems like there's no shame for Ferengi in appearing cowardly if it saves your skin. The 'he who laughs last laughs best' principle of combat. But he was legitimately menacing in this scene. (And Rom's little angry hisses were adorable.)
on August 2, 2015
This is one of those very special '90s episodes where the attempt to portray an encounter with a "radically different alien species and society" turns into an encounter with a "vaguely matriarchal society that also seems to have a high incidence of intellectual disability and a skin condition."
There were several different aspects of Skrreean-Federation relations they could have explored in greater detail- the language problem at the beginning might have become another "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra," for instance. Or they could have addressed the question of relatively egalitarian societies engaging with one that still practices pretty extreme gender disparity. Instead, they went with "Haneek is shitty to Kira for no real reason."
Even in a context closer to our own, this episode might have asked some interesting questions about issues of migration from extremely impoverished societies to wealthy ones. However, this doesn't work especially well in the scenario described in the episode, as there is absolutely no colonial relationship between the Federation and the Skrreeans, not to mention that the Federation was ready to give them a whole frickin' planet.
on August 2, 2015 [
I remember thinking this one worked, but it wasn't anything too special. Kind of a solid B+. They did some work to make the issues morally complex, so there were no easy answers. The flaking skin was a good fit for this, because it's a part of their race and they can't help it and it's a minor thing, but at the same time it's gross. You'd hate it, but you'd probably feel kind of guilty about hating it. Everything about these poor people is just weird and complicated and annoying and sad, they just don't fit anywhere.
I don't know if there's a Rule of Acquisition that covers it, but it seems like there's no shame for Ferengi in appearing cowardly if it saves your skin.
You know, now that you mention it that
seem to be their attitude. They can be bullies (ala Brunt, or the way Quark treats Rom) and they can sometimes even be dangerous, hissing little rodent men (mostly in the early days of TNG) but when they know they're about to get their asses kicked they all seem perfectly willing to cringe and beg, without shame. I can't even imagine one Ferengi giving another grief about it. "Where was your pride?" That wouldn't happen.
on August 2, 2015 [
Rule 109: "Dignity and an empty sack is worth the sack."
Rule 125: "You can't make a deal if you're dead."
on August 3, 2015 [
Maybe I just went into it with very low expectations based on zarq's comment in the previous thread that we were getting three clunkers in a row.
Sorry. Didn't mean to poison the well there. I did not like these episodes and am glad we're done with 'em.
on August 7, 2015
No apology necessary, better to have low expectations and be pleasantly surprised than to go in with high expectations and be disappointed, no?
(Also, I overstated when I said I thought they did the matriarchal thing well, I just meant I agreed with the AV Club recap in that making it a minor point of the episode kept them from going over the top into TNG Angel One territory)
on August 7, 2015
I would have liked to see more done with the Skreeans. The races we seem to spend the most time with are the ones that are most similar to former human civilizations. Klingon and Ferengi culture seem depressingly similar to some of those on Earth today or in the recent past. I'd love to see more Star Trek races that flipped that dynamic, at the very least, and let things be sexist in the favor of female characters.
Sisko is so awesome. When he realizes that these people are only interested in talking to Kira, he defers to her easily and without any kind of irritation.
on August 10, 2015 [
Another not so good episode. One of the funnier bits is when Haneek is talking and one of the words is in English, and, after Odo points this out, Sisko says, "Keep Talking" which Haneek wouldn't even understand.
on October 18, 2015
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