Gotham: Rise of the Villains: Damned if You Do
September 22, 2015 6:54 AM - Season 2, Episode 1 - Subscribe

Now that the show has doubled down on it most outrageous elements, Gotham seems content to wallow in artifice.

So...A lot like a comic book, then?

Honestly, I think Gotham wallowing in its artifice works just fine. It's its own thing, and it mostly works. It's "authentic" in its own way (and, honestly, invoking "authentic" is pretty lazy. It could mean damned near anything the reviewer intends.)
posted by Thorzdad at 7:38 AM on September 22, 2015 [2 favorites]

Best new show last year and off to a great start this season. More drama and character and style in five minutes than all four eps of the Walking Dead prequel combined.
posted by davidmsc at 7:43 AM on September 22, 2015

Wow, I didn't even realize this was back. I dropped out a few episodes in last season, when it seemed like the show couldn't quite decide what it was trying to be. Plus I'm the only one in my household who would want to watch it, which limits viewing opportunities. Hearing it's committing more to its particular style encourages me to give it another shot.
posted by GhostintheMachine at 7:53 AM on September 22, 2015 [1 favorite]

Av Club recap:

"This is still an imperfect show with dialogue that occasionally makes you cringe and a Batman origin story that’s moving along at a horribly sluggish pace. Still, with its new band of villains and a shakeup in the city of Gotham, be it Cobblepot becoming the man who pushes Gordon to compromise his ethics or billionaire Theo Galavan preparing to disrupt the order of the city, “Damned If You Do…” presents a rejuvenated and reworked version of Gotham that, for now, represents a significant step forward for the series."

If the reviews keep sounding like that, I may just give it another shot.
posted by nubs at 12:05 PM on September 22, 2015

I thought last night's episode was fairly strong, even after being on the fence following the S1 finale. It's definitely still a kookie, ridiculous show, but the set pieces and idiocy are all fairly well done. I'm looking forward to seeing what this season has to offer.

Also, I'm tentatively "calling" the league of shadows thing with Galavan and his crew.
posted by codacorolla at 12:34 PM on September 22, 2015

personally I'm just glad they brought back the nostalgia of the pilot episode with the whole Jim-running-as-seen-through-the-ridiculous-perspective-camera thing
posted by nogoodverybad at 5:46 PM on September 22, 2015 [1 favorite]

The uniform for female inmates (patients?) at Arkham is dresses? Sigh.
posted by mon-ma-tron at 8:06 PM on September 22, 2015

How long has it been since the events of the finale? Oswald's forehead got a lot bigger over the season break.
posted by entropicamericana at 7:59 AM on September 23, 2015

The uniform for female inmates (patients?) at Arkham is dresses? Sigh.

It kind of fits the retro tone, though.
I was questioning mixing male and female inmates/patients. That seems problematic at best.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:47 AM on September 23, 2015 [1 favorite]

Ok, I'm still onboard! Let's see how weird it gets.
posted by the man of twists and turns at 8:47 PM on September 30, 2015

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