Sleepy Hollow: I, Witness
October 1, 2015 7:18 PM - Season 3, Episode 1 - Subscribe
Abbie and Crane seem to have moved on with their lives until a mysterious tablet reveals a new dark prophecy.
I had no idea it was back, and seeing it on the menu tonight made me happy. Good stuff from start to finish.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:52 PM on October 1, 2015
posted by Thorzdad at 8:52 PM on October 1, 2015
Good episode. And Abbie Mills, FBI Special Agent? You go, girl. (And sweet office!) She goes through supervisors like some schools go through Defense Against the Dark Arts teachers, though.
Only a brief cursory nod towards the writing-out of Irving and...the blonde guy whose name I've already forgotten (guess which one of the two I'm more sad not to see) but at least they left it open for them to come back sometime.
Only weak spot so far: I was kinda underwhelmed with Betsy Ross. A little bit of a trying-too-hard vibe, maybe, or perhaps it's just that she hasn't really earned the "coolness" factor they were trying to give her.
posted by mstokes650 at 9:06 PM on October 1, 2015 [1 favorite]
Only a brief cursory nod towards the writing-out of Irving and...the blonde guy whose name I've already forgotten (guess which one of the two I'm more sad not to see) but at least they left it open for them to come back sometime.
Only weak spot so far: I was kinda underwhelmed with Betsy Ross. A little bit of a trying-too-hard vibe, maybe, or perhaps it's just that she hasn't really earned the "coolness" factor they were trying to give her.
posted by mstokes650 at 9:06 PM on October 1, 2015 [1 favorite]
Aaaw, I wanted more badass ninja Irving. But no more Hawley seems a decent trade-off.
posted by lmfsilva at 4:30 AM on October 2, 2015
posted by lmfsilva at 4:30 AM on October 2, 2015
Okay, what I want to know as a person who gave up at the mid point of S2: is this worth watching again?
posted by immlass at 10:01 AM on October 2, 2015
posted by immlass at 10:01 AM on October 2, 2015
Well, this is only the first episode, but it certainly looks promising. We're thankfully done with that interminable Katrina and Henry mess. I believe the headless horseman is gone, as well.
I have to admit, I grew tired/annoyed at last season, too. There's a new showrunner, so that could help. I'd definitely suggest you give it a chance.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:29 AM on October 2, 2015
I have to admit, I grew tired/annoyed at last season, too. There's a new showrunner, so that could help. I'd definitely suggest you give it a chance.
posted by Thorzdad at 10:29 AM on October 2, 2015
Immlass, you should watch at least this S3 premiere, so that your last memory of the show isn't stuck at whatever level of suckitude you left on. I don't know how the rest of the season will go -- I mean, they're doing a crossover with Bones, so, who knows what else the new show runner is going to throw at the wall -- but this episode was definitely a solid re-boot.
She goes through supervisors like some schools go through Defense Against the Dark Arts teachers, though.
Maybe they could get Bill Hader next. (Or just do a Sleepy Hollow/B99 crossover, makes as much sense as Bones.)
posted by oh yeah! at 9:08 PM on October 2, 2015
She goes through supervisors like some schools go through Defense Against the Dark Arts teachers, though.
Maybe they could get Bill Hader next. (Or just do a Sleepy Hollow/B99 crossover, makes as much sense as Bones.)
posted by oh yeah! at 9:08 PM on October 2, 2015
Heh, after the whole Pelant or whatever the guy was called, Bones is at least as supernatural as Sleepy Hollow, if not more.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:53 AM on October 3, 2015
posted by lmfsilva at 7:53 AM on October 3, 2015
Heh, after the whole Pelant or whatever the guy was called, Bones is at least as supernatural as Sleepy Hollow, if not more.
Apparently, there will be a Bones/Sleepy Hollow crossover around Halloween this season.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:24 AM on October 3, 2015
Apparently, there will be a Bones/Sleepy Hollow crossover around Halloween this season.
posted by Thorzdad at 8:24 AM on October 3, 2015
I only watched the first few seasons of Bones, I quit after they turned Zack into a killer. It's going to be strange to watch it again after all these years, but I guess I will for Beharie. (Not sure how we'll deal with the episode threads -- I believe the cross is going to start with Agent Mills consulting on a Bones case, and then the supernatural aspects will be back in the next Sleepy Hollow episode.)
posted by oh yeah! at 8:25 AM on October 3, 2015
posted by oh yeah! at 8:25 AM on October 3, 2015
Apparently, there will be a Bones/Sleepy Hollow crossover around Halloween this season.
Yeah, but my point is that the universe where Betsy Ross is a ninja spy, the hessians had demon-soldiers and one guy knew all founding fathers personally and woke up almost 300 years later to fight a headless Terminator manages to be more believable than the universe were someone can infect a high security computer cluster by creating freakin' barcodes or whatever l33t h4xx0r crap the writers pulled off their asses for the Pelant plotlines.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:29 PM on October 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
Yeah, but my point is that the universe where Betsy Ross is a ninja spy, the hessians had demon-soldiers and one guy knew all founding fathers personally and woke up almost 300 years later to fight a headless Terminator manages to be more believable than the universe were someone can infect a high security computer cluster by creating freakin' barcodes or whatever l33t h4xx0r crap the writers pulled off their asses for the Pelant plotlines.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:29 PM on October 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
I'm waiting for the Hamilton crossover. :)
But yes, this definitely felt better and more promising than last season, even if I'm still angry about Orlando Jones' departure.
posted by ltracey at 6:34 PM on October 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
But yes, this definitely felt better and more promising than last season, even if I'm still angry about Orlando Jones' departure.
posted by ltracey at 6:34 PM on October 3, 2015 [1 favorite]
i mean really did my eyes deceive me or did they actually just introduce a white potential love interest for ichabod and a black one for abbie?
i just
why must everything betray me
posted by poffin boffin at 3:57 PM on October 4, 2015 [1 favorite]
i just
why must everything betray me
posted by poffin boffin at 3:57 PM on October 4, 2015 [1 favorite]
and a black one for abbie?
Who? The only black guy I remember seeing was the patrol cop who drove by Pandora on her way to Sleepy Hollow.
posted by oh yeah! at 5:47 PM on October 4, 2015
Who? The only black guy I remember seeing was the patrol cop who drove by Pandora on her way to Sleepy Hollow.
posted by oh yeah! at 5:47 PM on October 4, 2015
I think poffin was probably referring to Abbie's new boss, introduced in like the last five seconds of the show.
posted by mstokes650 at 8:24 PM on October 4, 2015
posted by mstokes650 at 8:24 PM on October 4, 2015
And yeah, I didn't really think about it in those terms, but they did. :\
Although, the awkward-dorky-adorable blonde FBI forensics lady reminded me so much of Ichabod's awkward-dorky-adorable reenactor/costume-maker Caroline, and we all remember how that turned out... So pretty much the entire time she was talking I was just thinking "Oh you're going to die horribly like an episode from now," which is probably why I didn't peg her as a serious love interest.
posted by mstokes650 at 8:31 PM on October 4, 2015
Although, the awkward-dorky-adorable blonde FBI forensics lady reminded me so much of Ichabod's awkward-dorky-adorable reenactor/costume-maker Caroline, and we all remember how that turned out... So pretty much the entire time she was talking I was just thinking "Oh you're going to die horribly like an episode from now," which is probably why I didn't peg her as a serious love interest.
posted by mstokes650 at 8:31 PM on October 4, 2015
From a commenter in the io9 recap thread, the full Colonial Times menu - All you can eat for $17.76!
I've re-watched the ending and I still can't find the new supervisor you guys are seeing. My recording ends with Abbie & Crane talking about the tablet and Crane not being alone in the world, Abbie running into Pandora at the bar, Pandora says 'It already feels like home' and her eyes do something spooky, then credits roll.
Although, the awkward-dorky-adorable blonde FBI forensics lady reminded me so much of Ichabod's awkward-dorky-adorable reenactor/costume-maker Caroline, and we all remember how that turned out... So pretty much the entire time she was talking I was just thinking "Oh you're going to die horribly like an episode from now," which is probably why I didn't peg her as a serious love interest.
I had the exact same thoughts about her.
Both Beharie and Mison were pretty clear in the DragonCon panels that they were not in favor of Ichabod & Abbie hooking up, so, I don't mind if the writers throw some side-character chemistry into the mix as long as it doesn't interfere with the amount of Abbie/Ichabod screen time. (I saw Mison at his autograph table sometime after the panels, and told him I agreed with them about not needing Abbie & Ichabod to be a couple -- but that if the writers didn't have an episode where the two of them have to pretend to be a couple, it would be a crime against comedy. He seemed to agree.)
posted by oh yeah! at 5:07 AM on October 5, 2015 [1 favorite]
I've re-watched the ending and I still can't find the new supervisor you guys are seeing. My recording ends with Abbie & Crane talking about the tablet and Crane not being alone in the world, Abbie running into Pandora at the bar, Pandora says 'It already feels like home' and her eyes do something spooky, then credits roll.
Although, the awkward-dorky-adorable blonde FBI forensics lady reminded me so much of Ichabod's awkward-dorky-adorable reenactor/costume-maker Caroline, and we all remember how that turned out... So pretty much the entire time she was talking I was just thinking "Oh you're going to die horribly like an episode from now," which is probably why I didn't peg her as a serious love interest.
I had the exact same thoughts about her.
Both Beharie and Mison were pretty clear in the DragonCon panels that they were not in favor of Ichabod & Abbie hooking up, so, I don't mind if the writers throw some side-character chemistry into the mix as long as it doesn't interfere with the amount of Abbie/Ichabod screen time. (I saw Mison at his autograph table sometime after the panels, and told him I agreed with them about not needing Abbie & Ichabod to be a couple -- but that if the writers didn't have an episode where the two of them have to pretend to be a couple, it would be a crime against comedy. He seemed to agree.)
posted by oh yeah! at 5:07 AM on October 5, 2015 [1 favorite]
Heh, Ichabod + Abbie would be a disservice for a show that in a rare subversion of the genre, avoided any hint of sexual tension between both leads. Stop Moonlighting it, people.
I've re-watched the ending and I still can't find the new supervisor you guys are seeing.
It's on the "next week on Sleepy Hollow" bit.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:28 AM on October 5, 2015 [1 favorite]
I've re-watched the ending and I still can't find the new supervisor you guys are seeing.
It's on the "next week on Sleepy Hollow" bit.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:28 AM on October 5, 2015 [1 favorite]
I don't know, I felt a tremor of Jenny/Ichabod bonding that would be awesome if it were mis-interpreted or even blossomed into a full on ship.
But that should be taken with a grain of sand because I'm notorious for picking the unsuccessful/off-brand ships. Robin and Barney, Rachel and Joey, Buffy and nobody at all, Fred and Gunn, I picked every one and watched writers set fire to them with no remorse.
That said, this season is starting off lovely and I hope they continue in this vein.
posted by teleri025 at 1:11 PM on October 5, 2015
But that should be taken with a grain of sand because I'm notorious for picking the unsuccessful/off-brand ships. Robin and Barney, Rachel and Joey, Buffy and nobody at all, Fred and Gunn, I picked every one and watched writers set fire to them with no remorse.
That said, this season is starting off lovely and I hope they continue in this vein.
posted by teleri025 at 1:11 PM on October 5, 2015
The "don't fire until you see the whites of their eyes" reveal was exactly the kind of stupid that I have come to lovingly cringe over. It's so bad, but it feels so good.
I dropped out mid-way through last season, and I refused to come back until my girlfriend told me that Katrina and Hawley weren't going to come back. I'll miss Irving a lot, but if he's the price that I have to pay to get rid of those two, it's worth it and then some.
Glad to have the show mostly back on track.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 4:55 PM on October 5, 2015
I dropped out mid-way through last season, and I refused to come back until my girlfriend told me that Katrina and Hawley weren't going to come back. I'll miss Irving a lot, but if he's the price that I have to pay to get rid of those two, it's worth it and then some.
Glad to have the show mostly back on track.
posted by Parasite Unseen at 4:55 PM on October 5, 2015
It's so bad, but it feels so good.
Sleepy Hollow should be about three things:
- Ichabod being outraged with modern society / puzzled by new tech (the "slide to unlock" is probably the best gag they ever did as far at that goes, and Mison sold that whole bit perfectly)
- Abbie and Ichabod (with Jenny if numbers are necessary) kicking ass together
- Brilliantly stupid perversions of history, and the stupider the better.
Last season, the additions of Hawley and never being quite sure what to do with Katrina took time from the second (I kind of feel sorry for Katia Winter, spending two years on a project where they rarely cared enough about her character to be more than a plot device here and there), and the diminished focus on monster-of-the-week episodes gave less excuses to come up with weird independence war artifacts.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:43 AM on October 6, 2015
Sleepy Hollow should be about three things:
- Ichabod being outraged with modern society / puzzled by new tech (the "slide to unlock" is probably the best gag they ever did as far at that goes, and Mison sold that whole bit perfectly)
- Abbie and Ichabod (with Jenny if numbers are necessary) kicking ass together
- Brilliantly stupid perversions of history, and the stupider the better.
Last season, the additions of Hawley and never being quite sure what to do with Katrina took time from the second (I kind of feel sorry for Katia Winter, spending two years on a project where they rarely cared enough about her character to be more than a plot device here and there), and the diminished focus on monster-of-the-week episodes gave less excuses to come up with weird independence war artifacts.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:43 AM on October 6, 2015
Popping in to say that hey, my friend was in this one! (He had texted me over the summer to excitedly tell me he got a very small part on Sleepin Hollers and that everyone was just as lovely and pleasant you imagine.)
posted by Kitteh at 7:12 AM on October 7, 2015
posted by Kitteh at 7:12 AM on October 7, 2015
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posted by oh yeah! at 7:32 PM on October 1, 2015 [1 favorite]