Wayward Pines: Season Two
June 1, 2016 7:03 AM - Season 2 (Full Season) - Subscribe
A few years after the first season, a new resident is plopped into Wayward Pines under the iron first of the First Generation.
As new star Jason Patric puts it, "The first season, the star was Wayward Pines... Now, the cat's out of the bag, so it is about the characters. It's not about finding out what happened, it's how do people then live in this environment and the pressures of it. So, I think the characters are forefront."
As new star Jason Patric puts it, "The first season, the star was Wayward Pines... Now, the cat's out of the bag, so it is about the characters. It's not about finding out what happened, it's how do people then live in this environment and the pressures of it. So, I think the characters are forefront."
Absolutely. At least it saves me from writing downright bizarre episode capsules.
It started poorly. With literal nazis.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:22 AM on June 1, 2016 [1 favorite]
It started poorly. With literal nazis.
posted by lmfsilva at 7:22 AM on June 1, 2016 [1 favorite]
It started poorly. With literal nazis.
I was less annoyed by the Pilcherjugend than I was by the attempt to put the new guy in the "What's going on here?!?" mystery role. It just doesn't make sense to keep new people in the dark anymore, even within the confines of the show. Everyone else in the town knows that they're in the year 4036 or whenever and that the human race is dead and there are hypermutants outside the walls ready to eat them. And not even the resistance is willing to give the new guy this very important information.
posted by Etrigan at 7:44 AM on June 1, 2016 [5 favorites]
I was less annoyed by the Pilcherjugend than I was by the attempt to put the new guy in the "What's going on here?!?" mystery role. It just doesn't make sense to keep new people in the dark anymore, even within the confines of the show. Everyone else in the town knows that they're in the year 4036 or whenever and that the human race is dead and there are hypermutants outside the walls ready to eat them. And not even the resistance is willing to give the new guy this very important information.
posted by Etrigan at 7:44 AM on June 1, 2016 [5 favorites]
role. It just doesn't make sense to keep new people in the dark anymore, even within the confines of the show.
They need him to do the surgery and not be excessively distracted. They're also planning on sending him to his death after the fact, so there's no need to waste time on exposition. That said, they still seem to be way too kill-happy, given the very limited supply of people they have to draw from. I do like that we saw miles of greenhouses on the drive, which explains where they're getting their food from. That said, should the population be like 90% focused on food production? Do you really need a functioning cafe?
Everyone else in the town knows that they're in the year 4036 or whenever and that the human race is dead and there are hypermutants outside the walls ready to eat them.
Do they? The first generation knows, but we don't know how many of Group B are still alive. The town could be populated mostly by Group C folks.
posted by leotrotsky at 7:56 AM on June 1, 2016
They need him to do the surgery and not be excessively distracted. They're also planning on sending him to his death after the fact, so there's no need to waste time on exposition. That said, they still seem to be way too kill-happy, given the very limited supply of people they have to draw from. I do like that we saw miles of greenhouses on the drive, which explains where they're getting their food from. That said, should the population be like 90% focused on food production? Do you really need a functioning cafe?
Everyone else in the town knows that they're in the year 4036 or whenever and that the human race is dead and there are hypermutants outside the walls ready to eat them.
Do they? The first generation knows, but we don't know how many of Group B are still alive. The town could be populated mostly by Group C folks.
posted by leotrotsky at 7:56 AM on June 1, 2016
Do they? The first generation knows, but we don't know how many of Group B are still alive. The town could be populated mostly by Group C folks.
I suppose that may be the case, but then the resistance people are even dumber than they appear to be. Spreading the truth should be their first priority, far ahead of blowing up random vehicles that they don't know who might be in.
posted by Etrigan at 8:01 AM on June 1, 2016
I suppose that may be the case, but then the resistance people are even dumber than they appear to be. Spreading the truth should be their first priority, far ahead of blowing up random vehicles that they don't know who might be in.
posted by Etrigan at 8:01 AM on June 1, 2016
Now, if there's one thing we have learned from the first season is how the harder you think of Wayward Pines, the less sense it makes.
I'll probably imagine this is a Star Trek holodeck where someone ran the "Germany 1938" program. It will make more sense than anything the writers put on paper.
posted by lmfsilva at 9:08 AM on June 1, 2016
I'll probably imagine this is a Star Trek holodeck where someone ran the "Germany 1938" program. It will make more sense than anything the writers put on paper.
posted by lmfsilva at 9:08 AM on June 1, 2016
What a mess of a season starter. We're supposed to believe that absolutely nothing has changed and that they learned nothing from any of the previous breakdowns? That maybe it's actually gotten WORSE? That these brainwashed kids blindly follow someone who failed spectacularly multiple times, culminating in his own death? I can't really imagine myself watching any more of this show.
posted by destructive cactus at 10:15 PM on June 1, 2016
posted by destructive cactus at 10:15 PM on June 1, 2016
I thought it was decent last night (second episode). I did find myself eye rolling and yelling at the tv a few times. Doesn't it make sense to try to slowly enlarge the town though? Or to try to infect the abbies with a virus or something?
I would clear small areas around the perimeter of the fence using flamethrowers, etc., and enlarge the town by building new fences.
How stupid are the abbies though? Wouldn't you have pushed the crashed vehicle over to the wall and climbed up on that instead of making an burnt abbie pyramid?
I should probably spend less time trying to solve their problems for them.
Oh and Nazi leader guy totally would have killed Shannyn Sossamon's character by now.
Yes, this show is stupid. I guess I'm stupid too though, as I find it somewhat entertaining.
posted by the webmistress at 7:34 AM on June 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
I would clear small areas around the perimeter of the fence using flamethrowers, etc., and enlarge the town by building new fences.
How stupid are the abbies though? Wouldn't you have pushed the crashed vehicle over to the wall and climbed up on that instead of making an burnt abbie pyramid?
I should probably spend less time trying to solve their problems for them.
Oh and Nazi leader guy totally would have killed Shannyn Sossamon's character by now.
Yes, this show is stupid. I guess I'm stupid too though, as I find it somewhat entertaining.
posted by the webmistress at 7:34 AM on June 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
Worst resource management ever.
They have enough gas to operate a fleet of gas-guzzlers and flamethrowers and expand a abby research center, but decided not only to build their fields outside the wall, but also not convert some of those gas-guzzlers to makeshift havesters.
Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, but at least they were organized.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:25 AM on June 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
They have enough gas to operate a fleet of gas-guzzlers and flamethrowers and expand a abby research center, but decided not only to build their fields outside the wall, but also not convert some of those gas-guzzlers to makeshift havesters.
Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, but at least they were organized.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:25 AM on June 3, 2016 [1 favorite]
Oh my god. I said the same thing out loud while watching it. "Why don't they have armored harvesters????"
I think there's something wrong with the soil inside the town, which is why the crops are outside. So... even better in the long run than armored harvesters.........er...enclose the area where the crops are???? With new fences???
(sorry for using up metafilter's daily allotment of question marks and dots)
posted by the webmistress at 11:42 AM on June 3, 2016
I think there's something wrong with the soil inside the town, which is why the crops are outside. So... even better in the long run than armored harvesters.........er...enclose the area where the crops are???? With new fences???
(sorry for using up metafilter's daily allotment of question marks and dots)
posted by the webmistress at 11:42 AM on June 3, 2016
Ah, yes, I remember something about the soil.
Still doesn't explain why they don't try to build at least something to slow them down.
The Pilcherjugend probably executed the only guy that knew how to make walls or fences for looking at them funny or something.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:01 PM on June 3, 2016
Still doesn't explain why they don't try to build at least something to slow them down.
The Pilcherjugend probably executed the only guy that knew how to make walls or fences for looking at them funny or something.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:01 PM on June 3, 2016
Ugh, I just tried episode 1 and couldn't get through it. The rebel leader is Ben? Bland, boring, unwatchable Ben?
posted by mochapickle at 9:58 PM on June 3, 2016
posted by mochapickle at 9:58 PM on June 3, 2016
Well, episode two has something for everyone who dislikes Bonk Ben.
posted by lmfsilva at 2:59 AM on June 4, 2016 [4 favorites]
posted by lmfsilva at 2:59 AM on June 4, 2016 [4 favorites]
Episode 3: why the fuck do they have vials of Smallpox lying around on a shelf? Glorious Leader doesn't see Abbies for two days and decides to move outside the wall? I think the Abbies are what happen when people are forced to watch this show for 4000 years.
posted by cardboard at 7:04 PM on June 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by cardboard at 7:04 PM on June 9, 2016 [1 favorite]
Episode 3: why the fuck do they have vials of Smallpox lying around on a shelf?
*Pilcher* brand smallpox, no less!
posted by mordax at 4:18 PM on June 10, 2016 [1 favorite]
*Pilcher* brand smallpox, no less!
posted by mordax at 4:18 PM on June 10, 2016 [1 favorite]
Assume for a second that I, like some others here, found season one frequently dumb but occasionally fun and with some not awful ideas. Call it 50% real watching, 50% hate watching, though YMMV. I've watched the first episode of season two and now it comes off like a mystery show without a mystery anymore. Is it that much worse now or does it settle in to something more like its season 1 level of cromulence?
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:29 AM on June 13, 2016
posted by DirtyOldTown at 10:29 AM on June 13, 2016
well, I guess this show now isn't just gloriously dumb, but also a complete mess.
posted by lmfsilva at 4:17 AM on June 26, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 4:17 AM on June 26, 2016
My spouse, who watched S1 with me and has expressly not watched any of S2, asked me last night what was going on in this season and whether it was any better, and I went through all of the various plot threads and summed it up with "I am genuinely incapable of judging its quality anymore."
posted by Etrigan at 5:14 AM on June 26, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by Etrigan at 5:14 AM on June 26, 2016 [1 favorite]
I missed the first season as it happened and just binge-watched it over the past week or so and got caught up (almost) on this season. The first season was stupid but entertaining and watchable, but, like, now that they seem to have killed off pretty much everyone we developed some empathy with from the first season and populated the entire place with unmitigated assholes, it's just kind of aggravating to watch. I mean, I pretty much just want all of these people to die now and I don't really care how it happens.
posted by Hal Mumkin at 7:27 PM on June 26, 2016
posted by Hal Mumkin at 7:27 PM on June 26, 2016
At this point, I'm pretty sure the abbys are much smarter than humans. First of, they learned how to control fire much faster than it took the pilcherjugend to scare them off with it. Also, they grunt because most likely they don't even need to talk, they're like telepaths or something.
posted by lmfsilva at 6:03 AM on June 30, 2016 [1 favorite]
posted by lmfsilva at 6:03 AM on June 30, 2016 [1 favorite]
I'm starting to think they named the show "Wayward Pines" just to make you hate yourself a little more for having to actively scroll through 500 other Fox shows on the list just to find it.
posted by Room 641-A at 6:52 AM on July 2, 2016
posted by Room 641-A at 6:52 AM on July 2, 2016
That female abby has perfected the Kubrick Stare.
I predict some sort of eusocial telepathic hive mentality in the abbies will be revealed long after it is obvious, with Wayward Pines considered to be the aberration in an otherwise idyllic Gaian paradise.
posted by cardboard at 11:01 AM on July 4, 2016
I predict some sort of eusocial telepathic hive mentality in the abbies will be revealed long after it is obvious, with Wayward Pines considered to be the aberration in an otherwise idyllic Gaian paradise.
posted by cardboard at 11:01 AM on July 4, 2016
So, except for the beardo (former FBI?) guy, all the characters from Season 1 are dead now, right?
posted by mon-ma-tron at 6:40 PM on July 7, 2016
posted by mon-ma-tron at 6:40 PM on July 7, 2016
Siobhan Fallon Hogan's receptionist is still annoyingly alive, isn't she?
posted by Etrigan at 7:50 AM on July 8, 2016
posted by Etrigan at 7:50 AM on July 8, 2016
Dr. Whatshisname might make a pass at her like she did with Megan, and she'll collapse from an aneurysm or something.
posted by lmfsilva at 9:10 AM on July 8, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 9:10 AM on July 8, 2016
Jason was in Season 1 as well, although he's starting to look tentative for anything more than an episode or two.
posted by cardboard at 10:16 AM on July 8, 2016
posted by cardboard at 10:16 AM on July 8, 2016
One thing that really stuck out for me -- the dude CJ met on one of his wakeup days was becoming an abbie, right? So it's a disease, not a mutation.
posted by Etrigan at 12:17 PM on July 8, 2016
posted by Etrigan at 12:17 PM on July 8, 2016
I didn't get that one, too. I mean, an evolution would see them looking and acting different right away. Not getting the shivers at night like it was zombie flu.
That said, CJ would have quite a story to tell. A second season (with all expository flashbacks) and following the decline of mankind a few hours, 20 years apart on each episode would make better television than this mess.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:34 PM on July 8, 2016
That said, CJ would have quite a story to tell. A second season (with all expository flashbacks) and following the decline of mankind a few hours, 20 years apart on each episode would make better television than this mess.
posted by lmfsilva at 12:34 PM on July 8, 2016
Evolution like that isn't going to happen naturally in just 2000 years. One possibility that has occurred to me is that Pikcher released some sort of virus to kill off humanity and it didn't quite work as expected, which explains his anger when they're still around.
posted by cardboard at 4:41 AM on July 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by cardboard at 4:41 AM on July 9, 2016 [2 favorites]
My best theory from season 1 was that the abbies were a colossal fuck-up by Pilcher with the first batch of inhabitants.
posted by lmfsilva at 5:50 AM on July 9, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 5:50 AM on July 9, 2016
@Etrigan: Siobhan Fallon Hogan's receptionist is still annoyingly alive, isn't she?
You're right. Although annoying, she usually provides the one weird laugh-out-loud-moment per episode for me.
posted by mon-ma-tron at 5:51 PM on July 13, 2016
You're right. Although annoying, she usually provides the one weird laugh-out-loud-moment per episode for me.
posted by mon-ma-tron at 5:51 PM on July 13, 2016
Not much new happened in episode 8, except we learned that one character was pregnant, one character couldn't get pregnant, and there is a tunnel under the wall that no one thought to block off.
posted by cardboard at 8:59 PM on July 15, 2016
posted by cardboard at 8:59 PM on July 15, 2016
And that Lil' Adolf and Eva had a bunker they could run to when the city was sieged. The only difference is this city had a wall before everything went down.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:56 AM on July 16, 2016
posted by lmfsilva at 8:56 AM on July 16, 2016
Adolf and Eva? More like Oedipus and Jocasta, amirite?
posted by Hal Mumkin at 7:28 PM on July 20, 2016 [2 favorites]
posted by Hal Mumkin at 7:28 PM on July 20, 2016 [2 favorites]
If only those network censors would have let Jason mouth the word "mother-fucker" when he discovered the news. But it feels like a cheap twist because there was no previous reveal the Kerry was a more recent defrost, was there?
posted by cardboard at 9:34 PM on July 20, 2016
posted by cardboard at 9:34 PM on July 20, 2016
When I questioned the future genetic makeup of Wayward Pines, I din't imagine it would be this bad.
man, I really wish they could say "motherfucker" on Fox. Just to get that American Pie moment again.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:30 AM on July 21, 2016 [1 favorite]
man, I really wish they could say "motherfucker" on Fox. Just to get that American Pie moment again.
posted by lmfsilva at 11:30 AM on July 21, 2016 [1 favorite]
Well that was an ending all right, anticlimactic and unresolved as Deadwood.
posted by cardboard at 3:33 AM on July 28, 2016
posted by cardboard at 3:33 AM on July 28, 2016
If they had the means to infect people, why instead of public executions they didn't inject the infractors with Marburg, and off you go? After a while the abbys would probably get the hint and bugger off someplace else.
Maybe this show should have been called "Wait, Forget I Asked”.
posted by lmfsilva at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
Maybe this show should have been called "Wait, Forget I Asked”.
posted by lmfsilva at 5:23 PM on July 28, 2016 [1 favorite]
Man, I get that Fox gets a lot of shit over the way they've treated sci-fi over the years, but WWP isn't going to "happen". They've already used up both angles of the story (characters are or aren't in the know) and both finished up with disappointment.
posted by lmfsilva at 8:35 AM on January 12, 2017
posted by lmfsilva at 8:35 AM on January 12, 2017
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posted by Etrigan at 7:04 AM on June 1, 2016 [1 favorite]