Supernatural: Rock Never Dies
December 2, 2016 3:03 PM - Season 12, Episode 7 - Subscribe

The Supernatural gang goes to LA to investigate Lucifer's new incarnation.

Long time no see, LA, boys.

I was sad to see Rick Springfield go, I was loving him in this part. That was actually a really good episode in its own way.

Which is worse, Sam, admitting to listening to a history podcast or hair rock?
posted by jenfullmoon (4 comments total)
I was surprised to see Springfield go, I figured he was there for the season. I was also surprised they were already promoting the "mid-season finale". While I've been enjoying this season so far, it still kind of feels like it's getting started. Maybe I've gotten used to them really hitting the big "arcs" really hard, and this season the UK MOL and Lucifer stuff has seemed relatively low-key. In this one they just up and said that Lucifer has no grand plan, and while Springfield did an awesome job selling that scene (whoa, there's a bunch of words I never thought I'd write) it does seem to derail the momentum a little. This isn't building to anything, he's just lashing out.

Also, I'm not sure what the goal was at his concert. He was going to make the crowd worship him somehow, maybe? I gather it was something more ghastly than that, but... what? They needed to establish he was going to suck out their souls or something. (Also, why did he not kill Crowley and Cas, when he obviously could?) And the LA-bashing was overplayed and trite. Admittedly I live in LA and love the town, but it really seemed like we were getting a lot of trite quips about Botox and stuff. Finally, hearing Dean say rock is dead felt wrong. This is a guy who uses rock star names as his aliases. "HAIR rock is dead," I could believe!

All that being said, the rock band angle was fun and Springfield really was surprisingly good. Mark Pelligrino owns the role, but Misha Collins and Springfield have both ably filled his shoes when he's away.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 5:12 PM on December 2, 2016

I think Lucifer is much weaker after going up against Amara, and he needed to even use a fossilized feather of himself to gain some strength back after Rowena cast him to the bottom of the ocean. That might explain him not just outright killing Cas and Crowley. But also maybe he didn't care enough to. Like he just wanted to them to see all the destruction he's going to cause.
posted by numaner at 8:29 PM on December 5, 2016


Dean: All right. 450 miles to L.A. Land of gridlock, Botox, overtaxing, underachieving, smell of sweaty desperation. I mean, you can't breathe. The beaches are toxic. You got dudes in skinny jeans wearing sunglasses inside. Image-obsessed narcissists. I do like the yoga pants, though. When was the last time we were in L.A.? About 10 years ago, doing a vengeful spirit? Man, that seems like forever ago. Doesn't it? Hey. [hits Sam's arm] Tryin' to talk to you here.
Sam: What?
Dean: You...What are you listenin' to?
Sam: Uh, podcast. Why?
Dean: All right, well… I need something to keep me awake, so crank it up.
Sam: I mean, it's a history podcast.
Dean: Well, I like history, you know? Gladiators and outlaws, pirates. Hell, we're driving a piece of history right here.
Sam: Not that kind of history. This is a, uh… it's a podcast on the history of the Protestant Reformation. A multipart exploration of each of Martin Luther's 95 theses.
Dean: Oh.
Sam: Yeah, that's what I thought.
Dean: [reaching over, unplugs Sam's earphones to hear "The Bloody Messiah"] Oh, Sam.
Sam: Dude.
Dean: Hair rock? Really?
Sam: It's not hair –
Dean: Come on.
Sam: It's not hair rock, Dean. It's hard rock. It's legitimate hard rock.
Dean: Wow.
Sam: Don't judge a book by its cover.
Dean: Yeah, or a dude by his, uh, rainbow wig and leopard prints.
Sam: Rainbow wig? What? You know what? I'm done apologizing. Lucifer possessed Vince Vincente. This is Vince Vincente's music, so listening to it is research.
Dean: No. No.
Sam: As a matter of fact… [raises the volume on his iPod] Study up, Dean.
Dean: No, no. No. I don't wanna listen to it.
Sam: You like it.
Dean: No. No. No, no. No. Turn it off.
Sam: It'll grow on ya.

Sam and Dean are waiting in the lobby of the hotel for Crowley and Castiel. Sam gets a water from the dispenser, which has fresh cut lime slices floating in it.
Dean: [looks disgusted]
Sam: What? It's good.
Dean: It's vegetable water.

Castiel: Sam, Dean.
Dean: Hey. You consider switching up your duds there? Bit stiff for this town.
Sam: He could be an agent or something.
Dean: Yeah, maybe a third-tier agent.
Castiel: At least I don't look like a lumberjack.

Crowley: Hello, boys. Long time. We team up to save the world, and then bupkis. You don't call, you don't write.
Dean: We don't care.

Castiel: [holding a binder in Vince's hotel room] Look at this – "the seeds of a ripe dragon fruit drizzled with exactly 1 ounce of acacia honey, prepared in a ceramic bowl – no plastic". What is this spell?
Crowley: It's breakfast. It's Vince's rider. I've seen worse.


While playing Words With Friends with Mary after playing the word "TWERKING" Dean receives the letters "LURIFEC". He also uses a devil emoji when messaging her.

This episode continues the tradition of Crowley's drinks having little devil pitchforks in them, shown at the beginning when he and Castiel are in a bar first talking to Dean and Sam.

At 11:30 mins they show the Hollywood Star Walk and the star for "Milt and Bill Larsen". They are the brothers who transformed an old Hollywood mansion into the Magic Castle. The castle is the home of the Academy of Magical Arts, a private club with about 2,500 members. Alumni include David Copperfield and Siegfried & Roy.

The montage of Beverly Hills (music and b-roll images) and the music during transitions is an ode to the TV series Beverly Hills, 90210.

"The seeds of a ripe dragon fruit drizzled with exactly one ounce of acacia honey." The seeds of a dragon fruit are minute, grain-of-salt size. One ounce (fluid volume) is two tablespoons. This specified breakfast would be about the size of a single chicken nugget, and slightly less nutritious.

On the VIP gig night of Vincent's/Lucifer's rock band there is a street view of neon lights flashing the club Whiskey A Go-Go with performing rock band Sabaton, from Sweden.

This is the first time we see Lucifer's true form as blue smoke.

The scene where Castiel says "Hey, assbutt," before knocking Lucifer into the drum set mirrors the scene in "Swan Song", where Castiel says "Hey, assbutt," before throwing a Molotov cocktail at Michael.

When Castiel and Crowley are distracting Lucifer backstage and Sam sets off the fire alarm in an effort to get the crowd of fans to leave, Lucifer says, "Clever girl," which is a reference to and quote from Jurassic Park, in which Robert Muldoon is tricked by the velociraptors and says to it, "Clever girl."

Dean claims to be adamantly against hair metal yet he listened to Ratt, Quiet Riot, and Bon Jovi earlier in the series.

In the backstage scene before the reunion show in club meteor, one of the dead band members has changed position and can be seen blinking.
posted by orange swan at 5:48 PM on January 13, 2022

Castiel thought Ladyheart's rider was a spellbook, heh. And there's a moment in the hotel room where Dean opens the pizza box on the coffee table and looks disgruntled when he sees there's no pizza left in it.

You'd think Castiel would have learned by now that it's asshole, not assbutt.

Mary and Dean playing online Scrabble together was cute.

Sam and Dean trying to pose as the new Oasis made me cringe a little on the inside.
posted by orange swan at 5:49 PM on January 13, 2022

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