Supernatural: LOTUS
January 6, 2017 11:43 AM - Season 12, Episode 8 - Subscribe

Sam, Dean, Castiel, Crowley and Rowena band together to fight Lucifer when his search for power leads him to the White House.
posted by Suffocating Kitty (6 comments total)
Man, this one was too soon.
posted by mordax at 12:20 PM on January 6, 2017 [2 favorites]

Oh, duh, I only just now got the title pun.
posted by oh yeah! at 12:30 PM on January 6, 2017

Jeez, I've already forgotten most of this one. This season definitely hasn't crackled like the last one. It feels like the show has kind of lost its way again and we're back to that Dick Roman-era level of quality, good enough but not great. Lucifer possessing the president should be pretty memorable stuff, but mostly I just remember being a little surprised that the show was departing from reality enough to say this guy was president, instead of Obama. (Haven't they made Obama references before? I definitely recall some grumbling about Bush and Cheney during their administration.) It kind of took me out of the reality of the show, and I think they would have been better off if Lucifer possessed a senator or something. Now I guess they won't be able to make any Trump jokes.
posted by Ursula Hitler at 4:25 PM on January 6, 2017 [2 favorites]

Jeez, I've already forgotten most of this one. This season definitely hasn't crackled like the last one.

Yeah, seriously. I think I still remember last season's mid-season finale better than I remember this one. I was so happy when he came back but now I'm definitely Lucifered out and kinda wish they got rid of him at the end of last season. There was so little mystery to the whole thing, and, in a monster-of-the-week type show like this, I need that. Bring on the Men (and Women) of Letters!
posted by eeek at 7:48 PM on January 6, 2017


Sam: Crowley, can we just get the damn news without the drama?
Crowley: Can I get you without the flannel? No. Still, I endure.


The name of the episode is a play on an acronym commonly used to designate the President of the United States: POTUS, or President of the United States. In this case the acronym is LOTUS, or Lucifer of the United States.

The Plains Motel featured in this episode is the same location used in 2006 for the scene in the trailer park from "Hell House" (ep. 1.17). The motel in this episode is also the motel seen in The X-Files season 11 finale "My Struggle III".

In this episode Dean tells Sam that he powered down the wards so that Crowley can enter the bunker, however Crowley has entered the bunker multiple times in the past without the warding ever being mentioned before.

At the beginning of the episode, a priest is listening to the radio when Lucifer, wearing the body of another prelate, comes in. The prelate is wearing red, which is the color worn by Catholic cardinals. The Priest calls him "your Excellency", the title one uses to address a bishop. A cardinal is addressed as "your Eminence".

The dead nun's eyes contract from the first shot to the second.

The café where Castiel and Kelly were sitting is the Five Corners Café in White Rock, BC.

In the scene in which the Secret Service 2016 Chevy Suburban was blown up, the explosion and subsequent wreckage shows a much older 2004 Chevy Suburban.
posted by orange swan at 5:58 PM on January 13, 2022

I am not buying that Castiel wouldn't have zapped himself, Kelly, Dean, and Sam out of that motel and back to the bunker, or that Kelly would be so set on having a baby she knew was the spawn of a monster.

Do they know where Lucifer went, or do they believe they killed him?
posted by orange swan at 12:09 PM on January 14, 2022

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