Lucifer: Anything Pierce Can Do I Can Do Better
April 23, 2018 7:13 PM - Season 3, Episode 21 - Subscribe
When a prima ballerina is murdered, Lucifer helps Chloe solve the case and attempts to keep her focus away from Pierce. Amenadiel asks Charlotte to help him with an important plan, and Maze remains devoted to a task from which Pierce asked her to back away.
That episode was so frustrating. The stupid was strong with everybody from Lucifer and Cain coming up with stupid theories to Ella being so captivated by a shouty asshole (once again). I just have no patience for this love triangle, although I am here for Charlotte, warrior of God, and for Linda finally getting to speak her mind.
This season has been so frustrating. They've had so many strong elements at their fingertips and they just haven't been able to do anything with them.
posted by sardonyx at 9:08 PM on April 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
This season has been so frustrating. They've had so many strong elements at their fingertips and they just haven't been able to do anything with them.
posted by sardonyx at 9:08 PM on April 23, 2018 [3 favorites]
I'm with you Sardonyx. Ella wearing a "spiritual gangster" shirt was great, but I was shocked she was so on board with helping Cain win back Chloe after he dumped her. Like she had no pause at all in terms of "You just really hurt her and now you want her back?" And I'm honestly really disappointed in Chloe. I mean Cain yanks her around like this and she thinks it's a good idea to rush into an engagement? If it was just her, ok, but she also has her child to think about. It seems like the writers dicked around all season and now are rushing to put things in place.
posted by miss-lapin at 1:44 AM on April 24, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by miss-lapin at 1:44 AM on April 24, 2018 [2 favorites]
I was thinking of the choreographer, (he's the BEST choreographer in the WHOLE WORLD!), which echoed her fascination with other asshole suspects, but you're absolutely right about her being too quick to push for Pierce and Chloe to get back together. She was just willing to sweep all of the bad behaviour under the rug. She's supposed to be the smart, sensible one, but there was no evidence of that here.
I can sort of see why Chloe agreed to marry Pierce--he was willing to put his feelings into action and support them with the right words, in direct contrast to Lucifer, who utterly failed to do so. She is also feeling vulnerable about the way she engages in relationships (what am I doing wrong?) and probably has the sense that this is her last chance at love.
We, the viewers have the benefit of seeing that Lucifer and Chloe care for each other (and we believe their bond is stronger than that between Chloe and Pierce) but Chloe doesn't have that perspective. So I can almost forgive her for being stupid about Pierce in this particular situation (although, as you point out, she jumped into this engagement way too quickly, especially given her previous stance about not introducing him to Trixie) but I still say she's been so stupid about getting involved (yet again) with somebody at work--and her boss in particular.
posted by sardonyx at 7:23 AM on April 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
I can sort of see why Chloe agreed to marry Pierce--he was willing to put his feelings into action and support them with the right words, in direct contrast to Lucifer, who utterly failed to do so. She is also feeling vulnerable about the way she engages in relationships (what am I doing wrong?) and probably has the sense that this is her last chance at love.
We, the viewers have the benefit of seeing that Lucifer and Chloe care for each other (and we believe their bond is stronger than that between Chloe and Pierce) but Chloe doesn't have that perspective. So I can almost forgive her for being stupid about Pierce in this particular situation (although, as you point out, she jumped into this engagement way too quickly, especially given her previous stance about not introducing him to Trixie) but I still say she's been so stupid about getting involved (yet again) with somebody at work--and her boss in particular.
posted by sardonyx at 7:23 AM on April 24, 2018 [1 favorite]
On a trivial note, I never noticed before the scene in Lucifer’s apartment how vast the difference in height is between him and Dr. Linda, since most of their scenes together have them both sitting down. When he stood directly next to her on his way out to the elevator he seemed to have a good couple of feet on her. (IMDb says he’s 6’3” and she’s 5’1”, so, maybe he was already starting up the stairs in the shot that struck me.)
I did like their scene a lot though. When all else fails on this show, I am always grateful for the casting of Rachael Harris and the existence & development of Dr. Linda.
posted by oh yeah! at 7:48 AM on April 24, 2018 [3 favorites]
I did like their scene a lot though. When all else fails on this show, I am always grateful for the casting of Rachael Harris and the existence & development of Dr. Linda.
posted by oh yeah! at 7:48 AM on April 24, 2018 [3 favorites]
If it was just Chloe taking Cain back, I'd understand that but going from broken up to engaged? That to me is too much to accept. I mean the lemon bars couldn't be THAT good.
posted by miss-lapin at 2:29 PM on April 24, 2018 [3 favorites]
posted by miss-lapin at 2:29 PM on April 24, 2018 [3 favorites]
I enjoyed this episode despite a bit of stupid stick going around. Things are finally moving forward again and that's all I really wanted. I can write off the stupid as being Dad's influence. Given Linda and Lucifer's timing, it's easy enough to believe, anyway.
posted by wierdo at 11:23 AM on April 25, 2018
posted by wierdo at 11:23 AM on April 25, 2018
I'm here more than a year later, having watched S4 on Netflix and then caught up with S1 & 2 on Prime. I can't wait for S3 to be over. The writing is pants!
When you can't advance your plot without making your female lead randomly behave like an idiot, you are going wrong. As S2 got into its stride I was sure they had some good women writers on the script team; now I'm more or less convinced that they lost them all at the beginning of S3 because there's been a marked drop in wit, charm and character development/plausibility. I'm embarrassed I recommended the series to someone on the basis of S1& 2, which they had seen, and not been grabbed by, because they'll go straight into S3 and ... it really is pants.
It's like the writing for Chloe is being led by a bunch of guys in a room going 'Women, eh. Who knows why they do like they do? Buy em some flowers.' And the writing (like the plot points) for Lucifer himself is flat and repetitive. What a trouper Tom Ellis is to be able to make something of it.
posted by glasseyes at 6:18 AM on September 23, 2019 [2 favorites]
When you can't advance your plot without making your female lead randomly behave like an idiot, you are going wrong. As S2 got into its stride I was sure they had some good women writers on the script team; now I'm more or less convinced that they lost them all at the beginning of S3 because there's been a marked drop in wit, charm and character development/plausibility. I'm embarrassed I recommended the series to someone on the basis of S1& 2, which they had seen, and not been grabbed by, because they'll go straight into S3 and ... it really is pants.
It's like the writing for Chloe is being led by a bunch of guys in a room going 'Women, eh. Who knows why they do like they do? Buy em some flowers.' And the writing (like the plot points) for Lucifer himself is flat and repetitive. What a trouper Tom Ellis is to be able to make something of it.
posted by glasseyes at 6:18 AM on September 23, 2019 [2 favorites]
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(I keep forgetting that the AV Club still recaps Lucifer, I thought they'd dropped coverage.)
Well, I've been fearing that this season was heading towards a cliff-hanger of Chloe seeing Lucifer kill Pierce still not knowing he was really Cain, and it looks like that's where we're going, albeit via a frame job by Maze.
posted by oh yeah! at 7:38 PM on April 23, 2018