Lucifer: The Angel Of San Bernardino
April 16, 2018 4:23 PM - Season 3, Episode 20 - Subscribe
A winged entity is seen flying through the night, saving ordinary people from disastrous situations. Lucifer speculates about the identity of the angel, and takes steps to prove it. Chloe makes a decision about her relationship with her boss. Closets feature prominently in the episode.
This doesn't air for 30 more minutes even on the east coast? Where can we watch it?
posted by Justinian at 4:33 PM on April 16, 2018
posted by Justinian at 4:33 PM on April 16, 2018
You guys get shows aired before the US? Oh my god. This changes everything.
posted by Justinian at 7:49 PM on April 16, 2018 [1 favorite]
posted by Justinian at 7:49 PM on April 16, 2018 [1 favorite]
It was Cain's act of falling in love and performing an act of self-sacrifice, not anything about Chloe specifically that caused his curse to be broken, correct?
Maybe? It's hard for me to believe that Cain could roam the planet for centuries without ever falling in love before, or that, having started his pursuit of Decker dishonestly he could fall in actual love so quickly. I guess I can fan-wank that he never really loved anyone before because he was too consumed with his anger at God's punishment to ever truly open himself to the possibility of love/hope. That it's not Chloe's intrinsic divine whatever-it-is that Amenadiel bestowed upon her at God's direction back when she was conceived, but Cain's belief in it that made the difference in his feelings for her as compared to every woman before her.
posted by oh yeah! at 7:58 PM on April 16, 2018 [2 favorites]
Maybe? It's hard for me to believe that Cain could roam the planet for centuries without ever falling in love before, or that, having started his pursuit of Decker dishonestly he could fall in actual love so quickly. I guess I can fan-wank that he never really loved anyone before because he was too consumed with his anger at God's punishment to ever truly open himself to the possibility of love/hope. That it's not Chloe's intrinsic divine whatever-it-is that Amenadiel bestowed upon her at God's direction back when she was conceived, but Cain's belief in it that made the difference in his feelings for her as compared to every woman before her.
posted by oh yeah! at 7:58 PM on April 16, 2018 [2 favorites]
You guys get shows aired before the US? Oh my god. This changes everything.
posted by Justinian at 7:49 PM on April 16
Just a few, and only sometimes. Other times we have to wait months.
As for Chloe's magical effect, I'm still going with the supposition that Cain hasn't fallen in love while wandering the earth. I'm guessing that's what the flash-back episode was supposed to show us: even though love was (possibly) there for his taking with the waitress in the bar, he was too consumed to see it and never acted upon it. At least I hope that's all it is. I'm really not up for Chloe's affection being the universal cure-all for every divine ailment.
posted by sardonyx at 8:11 PM on April 16, 2018 [2 favorites]
posted by Justinian at 7:49 PM on April 16
Just a few, and only sometimes. Other times we have to wait months.
As for Chloe's magical effect, I'm still going with the supposition that Cain hasn't fallen in love while wandering the earth. I'm guessing that's what the flash-back episode was supposed to show us: even though love was (possibly) there for his taking with the waitress in the bar, he was too consumed to see it and never acted upon it. At least I hope that's all it is. I'm really not up for Chloe's affection being the universal cure-all for every divine ailment.
posted by sardonyx at 8:11 PM on April 16, 2018 [2 favorites]
Yeah I'm going with Cain's genuine selflessness is what worked. I do wonder how Maze is going to respond to Cain reneging on his part of the deal.
posted by miss-lapin at 10:48 AM on April 18, 2018
posted by miss-lapin at 10:48 AM on April 18, 2018
My theory is that the self-sacrifice is the key bit. I don't think Cain is even necessarily in love with her but he made a choice to give up on a plan to escape his curse because he didn't want to hurt Chloe. Which in turn I suspect the writers are ascribing to her ability to influence Cain due to her honesty/openness/integrity/general personal amazingness. I think that in some ways this is a cheesier plot than the Chloe-as-devine-kryptonite option.
I was kind of entertained by Amenadiel's horror that people might tell each other about angels etc. Religions have been in existence for thousands of years because people do this all the time...
posted by *becca* at 9:46 AM on April 22, 2018 [3 favorites]
I was kind of entertained by Amenadiel's horror that people might tell each other about angels etc. Religions have been in existence for thousands of years because people do this all the time...
posted by *becca* at 9:46 AM on April 22, 2018 [3 favorites]
As we all know, when any random human atarts blabbing about God....they get ignored for crazy.
Maybe Cain lost the mark because he actually did something good/caring for once? A reverse Angel/us, perhaps.
posted by jenfullmoon at 4:08 AM on November 11, 2021
Maybe Cain lost the mark because he actually did something good/caring for once? A reverse Angel/us, perhaps.
posted by jenfullmoon at 4:08 AM on November 11, 2021
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It was Cain's act of falling in love and performing an act of self-sacrifice, not anything about Chloe specifically that caused his curse to be broken, correct?
Poor Charlotte. She just can't catch a break. She's a much stronger character when she's allowed to act on her impulses rather than burying them beneath a facade of goodness.
posted by sardonyx at 4:25 PM on April 16, 2018