Arrow: Fundamentals
April 13, 2018 5:39 AM - Season 6, Episode 18 - Subscribe

In his darkest place yet, Oliver wonders if he has failed at everything--being a father, a mayor, and a hero. His frustration rising, Oliver lashes out at Felicity and William, and a surprising visit from an old friend has him questioning his next move.
posted by oh yeah! (8 comments total)
 
The scene where Hallucination!Arrow told Oliver that he has failed this city felt straight up like a scene from an episode of Batman: The Animated Series in which Dream!Batman told Bruce Wayne that he's weak. Very well done and I can never get enough of "You have failed this city." I mean, that is just a damning line. People should use it in real life sometimes.
posted by Servo5678 at 7:00 AM on April 13 [1 favorite]


There were a few good moments, but overall that was one of the most frustrating episodes in the entire run of the show. It resets things back to day one for no good reason. Oliver turned to Felicity and Diggle because he needed help--and that's especially true in Felicity's case. How is he going to manage without it?

I just really want this season to be over and the show to reset itself to ignore this whole mess. Heck, I'd even take the Dallas, "It was just a dream," scenario at this point.

It's sad when the thing that got me most excited was when I noticed Oliver actually wearing his top button done up under his tie during the scene in the mayor's office when he was getting lecture about impeachment (just before he got drugged).
posted by sardonyx at 3:33 PM on April 13 [1 favorite]


It resets things back to day one for no good reason.

No way this sticks. By season's end he will have learned the lesson that he needs his support team. Again. Because Oliver doesn't learn lessons for long.
posted by Servo5678 at 5:38 PM on April 13 [1 favorite]


Of course it's not going to stick. Logic tells us there are a number of co-stars who have contracts and guaranteed roles, so they are going to need something to do, and this show can't handle too many separate storylines at once.

I can see it sticking for a while. We're nearing the end of the season, so maybe until the start of the next season, which can be one of those "getting the band back together" ones. If we're lucky, it won't last that long and will be over in an episode or two. I'm just not looking forward to putting up with all the stupid nonsense until the ship rights itself yet again.
posted by sardonyx at 6:14 PM on April 13 [1 favorite]


I mean, that is just a damning line. People should use it in real life sometimes.

We use it all the time in my household. Usually when one of the bipeds has disappointed one of the cats.

Except the line is actually, "You have failed this kitty."
posted by invincible summer at 3:56 PM on April 14 [4 favorites]


Except the line is actually, "You have failed this kitty."

Hey, that's my joke! I've been using that line on my girlfriend ever since she failed to fill the cat automatic feeders in time because she was watching Arrowverse shows with me when feeding time came and went. It's become so much of an in-joke for us that she had original artwork commissioned to commemorate it for our anniversary last year.
posted by Servo5678 at 6:09 PM on April 14 [1 favorite]


Felicity rocked in this show. Otherwise...yeah, ugh, what y'all said.
posted by jenfullmoon at 10:11 PM on April 15


yeah i don't understand going back to solo without Overwatch. like dude, she just stopped you from opening a door to a dozen cops with guns, why would you give that up?

i even liked the dialog so far this season. the writers and the actors have really found their groove with how to portray the characters effectively. but goddamn it's like a graph where as quality of characterization goes up, plot and character development goes down.
posted by numaner at 3:40 PM on April 18


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