Legends of Tomorrow: Hey, World!
May 20, 2019 7:56 PM - Season 4, Episode 16 - Subscribe

In the Season 4 finale, Constantine and Nora discover Neron's evil plan while on a mission to find Ray. Nate convinces the Legends to think outside the box and suggests a dangerous plan to unite magical creatures and people to save the world.
posted by oh yeah! (20 comments total) 2 users marked this as a favorite
 
As if to prove, definitively and objectively, how much they've turned this show around, they brought back Vandal Savage and he was actually funny and entertaining!

I also enjoyed the Legends' comeuppance for taking a hard pass on this season's crossover event, though judging by the Monitor hanging out in the Heyworld audience, they won't be passing on the next one.

I think reviving Nate with a musical number was riiiight at the edge of my gloriously cheesy vs. too over-the-top threshold. Following it up with Zari's timeline switcheroo was good in that it kept alive the idea that there are occasionally actual stakes for the Legends here (which, with Nate and Ray both emerging unscathed, would've felt pretty iffy otherwise), but it was also a bit of emotional whiplash. Probably could've used another minute or two towards the end there just to let that breathe a little bit longer. But that's really my only complaint and it's pretty minor!
posted by mstokes650 at 9:07 PM on May 20 [3 favorites]




I also agree that we needed a minute to absorb WTF just happened to Zari and why her brother is on the team (I assume that's the brother that dystopia-ARGUS killed?). He was wearing her wind totem bracelet so all the totem stuff clearly happened with him in her place, and he's pretty close with the team given how they treated him. Arggg I miss Zari already :(

AV Club: Legends Of Tomorrow ends a chaotic season with something sweet and storybook simple

Also, I love that Arrowverse lets the writers of Legends do whatever they want to others' properties, so it's completely on point that the Monitor shows up just to watch, SHDH, and eats popcorn.
posted by numaner at 12:56 PM on May 21 [4 favorites]


A great line from the comments section of the AV Club article:
"the most unbelievable part of the episode was those kids knowing the words to a James Taylor song."
posted by numaner at 1:41 PM on May 21 [3 favorites]


Nice sparkles. Nice shoulder pads.

God, I loved the snarky commentary about what people were wearing--saves me from having to post about it Speaking of what people were wearing, that Arrowverse Trinity scene was priceless.

I didn't know Nate could draw. I mean the book amplifies talent, but I assume the person has to have some talent in the first place, like Mick does.

That was a nice, sweet wrap up for Nate and his dad, even if I didn't really think the solution to resurrecting Nate should have been a group sing-a-long. I agree with mstokes650 that that was a bit too much to buy.

I think I'm done with Gary, and wouldn't mind seeing him vanish in the Crisis. At first, he had a role to play, and in small doses, he was a nice accent to the madness. Now, he's nothing but annoying and useless. If this was supposed to be his redemption opportunity, it didn't work.

I'm not too worried about Zari going poof and being replaced by her brother. I mean the Crisis is coming up, the Monitor is on-site. "Worlds will live, worlds will die and nothing will ever be the same," except with reality getting altered, I'm sure the team can find a way to remember Zari and bring her back.

What I'm more curious about is the status of Nora's powers. Is she going to remain Gary's Fairy Godmother? ("And I thought I was being tortured." I swear the dialogue was a hoot this episode. Yes, it was meta and silly, but it was an absolute riot.)

I'm also interested in how Astra will be able to use the tyrants' souls, given their bodies are long gone. And if she had the chance to grab soul tokens, did she grab hers?

I tried to go into this as spoiler free as possible, just so I could enjoy the ride, so the Vandal Savage guest appearance was an unexpected pleasure, and yes, they made the character work in this context. Truly remarkable. Maybe they should have left Ray down in Hell for a bit. He'd eventually talk his way onto the throne, do away with torture and reform everybody banished there.

SHDH? Translation please.

As always, I'm happy to have enjoyed this season with you guys and gals. It makes the show that much more fun when you can squee about it with fellow fans.
posted by sardonyx at 7:52 PM on May 21 [3 favorites]


SHDH? Translation please.
Shaking His Damn Head. It's usually SMDH for Shaking My Damn Head, the four letter shorthand(cf LOL, BRB) for crossing ones arms, moving the chin back and forth horizontally, sometimes making a tsk-tsk noise and thinking
"Now this here? This is some real white people nonsense."
It's the shorter, less-sympathetic version of "Sweetie. Oh honey, noooo."
posted by bartleby at 9:07 PM on May 21 [2 favorites]


I didn't know Nate could draw. I mean the book amplifies talent, but I assume the person has to have some talent in the first place, like Mick does.

I dunno if it qualifies as "talent" but the original Heyworld plans that Hank was working from were all based on Nate's childhood drawings. Surely adult-Nate can still draw at least as well as his 5-year-old-self, right?
posted by mstokes650 at 9:08 PM on May 21 [1 favorite]


Oh, for the non-comics and non-other-shows folks, that caped guy in the corner with the popcorn is The Monitor, whose job it is to watch over the various multiple universes. He's now showed up in all of the CW superhero shows warning of (and meddling in?) a pending Crisis of Infinite Earths, assumed by all to be this year's big crossover event. Expect multiple universes, what-ifs, timeline collapses, character resets, actors moving to another show, etc. The C.o.I.E. was a huge DC Comics event, meant to consolidate all of the tangled storylines, character arcs and timeline discontinuities that had balled up into a mess over the years (but eventually made things even more complicated, because Comics! Are! Weird!). If a bunch of characters are leaving their various shows, or entire shows are stopping production, this Crisis Crossover event would be the way to do it.
posted by bartleby at 9:27 PM on May 21 [1 favorite]


This was fun. I think the only detail that really bothered me was losing Zari: I really hope she's only in for a temporary absence.

But everything else was glorious:
* Mick having the magic creation book, and wanting it back.
* The dragon dancing. (Truly, an antidote for GoT's dismal final season.)
* Vandal Savage actually becoming a great guy after some time in Hell. (Even better, I can actually believe the place would lighten him up.)
* That commercial.
* The park being the answer all along. (Godspeed, Nate's dad. Truly, he deserves the actual Good Place.)
* The Monitor just eating popcorn and watching the show, proof even he is not immune to their goofiness.
posted by mordax at 10:13 PM on May 21 [4 favorites]


I was surprised by the (delightful) Vandal Savage cameo, but that reminded me, weren't we supposed to get a Hawk-people cameo this season? Did it happen and I forgot about it already, or was it a tease for a season 5 appearance? I was looking forward to seeing how they'd play in the post-S1 zaniness.

I finally felt like there was a spark of chemistry between Nate & Zari, so, I guess it figures that's when their relationship would get torpedoed.
posted by oh yeah! at 4:31 AM on May 22 [1 favorite]


Vandal Savage actually becoming a great guy after some time in Hell. (Even better, I can actually believe the place would lighten him up.)

There's precedent for Savage becoming a friendly guy once he takes his eye off the world domination ball. There's a Justice League story in which he succeeds in conquering the Earth, but makes a terrible mistake and wipes out all human life in the process (except himself). Left alone for centuries, he mellows and starts working on hobby projects to better himself. Eventually a time-displaced Superman pops into existence and with nothing else to do, they start hanging out and become friends. It's a fun story called "Hereafter". Check it out.

Speaking of what people were wearing, that Arrowverse Trinity scene was priceless.

It occurred to me that this version of the Trinity could be named Gary Allen and Sara Danvers. Can't rhyme Nate's name with Oliver's though.
posted by Servo5678 at 5:46 AM on May 22 [4 favorites]


Check it out.

Oh, good callback! Hereafter was awesome. His response to Superman's incredulous 'you wanna hang out' was something like, 'Oh, like you've got anything better to do.'

Plus, it had Lobo try to join the Justice League.
posted by mordax at 9:57 AM on May 22 [4 favorites]


He's now showed up in all of the CW superhero shows warning of (and meddling in?) a pending Crisis of Infinite Earths

The Monitor actually didn't appear in this season finale of Flash, but Thawne (Reverse-Flash) mentions the word "crisis", and then runs away, so I assume the coming crossover will involve him again (he teamed up with Earth-X's heroes villains two years ago for that crossover, Crisis on Earth-X).
posted by numaner at 2:46 PM on May 22 [2 favorites]


"the most unbelievable part of the episode was those kids knowing the words to a James Taylor song."

Magic is everywhere. :)
posted by Mogur at 3:12 PM on May 22 [3 favorites]


Alternate unicerses and strange timelines are my catnip. Bring on Season 5! (Will Rory still be an author?)
posted by rednikki at 10:07 PM on May 23


I was so happy when I thought we were finally done with Nate. Then they bring him back and poof Zari? Ugh.
posted by Karmakaze at 10:23 AM on May 24


It's a fun story called "Hereafter". Check it out.

Another grand-slam by Dwayne McDuffie ( RIP )...
posted by mikelieman at 8:42 AM on May 25 [2 favorites]


What I'm more curious about is the status of Nora's powers. Is she going to remain Gary's Fairy Godmother? ("And I thought I was being tortured." I swear the dialogue was a hoot this episode. Yes, it was meta and silly, but it was an absolute riot.)

Nora and Gary are the best version of Firestorm since Firestorm. And low-cost to produce, too.

I hope Zari is back! Farhad can stay, I just want her there, too.

Nate's dad is the best. I loved when he sang to the minotaur and I was delighted when he started everyone singing Nate back to life. It looked grim for a second there. Can you imagine being trapped in limbo with your father? Ugh basically a nightmare, I'd rather be down in Hell with Astra.

This is such a fun show, I love how childlike they're willing to be. Zero grimdark. Just how I like it. The singalong was cheesy, but I'd rather them err on the side of cheese than on harshness, frankly. After all, this shit is supposed to be fun!
posted by rue72 at 11:48 AM on May 25 [2 favorites]


I can absolutely believe that Ray got his torturer to play Jenga with him in hell and had an awesome time. But it's VANDAL SAVAGE? Who is now pleasant and cheerful to deal with? Bwahahahah this show is great. Dayenu, y'all.

I love how an amusement park saved the world from dystopia. Walt only wishes he could do that. Someone fetch up his soul coin and see what happens?

Nate and his dad were very sweet.

The use of the Monitor and his popcorn were great. Also the baby dancing dragon. Also the "Trinity" cosplay because they didn't do the crossover this year. I love it when they're meta.

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I am sad about the now-missing Zari but presume they'll figure out something... fingers crossed. I am curious to get to know her brother--maybe they can be on the ship together?
posted by jenfullmoon at 6:51 PM on May 28 [2 favorites]


Only 8 days until DragonCon -- the Arrowverse guests this time are scheduled to be: Tala Ashe (Zari), Jes Macallan (Ava), Matt Ryan (Constantine), Nick Zano (Nate), Paul Blackthorne (Quentin Lance), Colton Haynes (Roy Harper). My convention roomie will be moderating two of the Arrow/Legends panels, so I'm almost certainly going to be in the room, so, if anyone can think of something good for the Q&A let me know.
posted by oh yeah! at 4:57 PM on August 21


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