Special Event: 2019 FIFA Women's World Cup: Semifinals
July 2, 2019 8:44 AM - Subscribe

On to the semis!
posted by LobsterMitten (336 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite
 
This was great: Sue Bird (Megan Rapinoe's girlfriend and a famous athlete in her own right): So The President F*cking Hates My Girlfriend.
posted by TwoStride at 8:57 AM on July 2 [7 favorites]


Crisis of patriotism in the (UK-based) Paws household tonight, then.
posted by ominous_paws at 9:23 AM on July 2




Initial lineup thoughts :

The USA shouldn't have too much in the way of changes. It's just another question of which of our four starting midfielders will fit into three midfield spots. I wouldn't mind seeing Lavelle dropped, and rolling with Mewis/Horan/Ertz.

England has a few more questions, but they mostly relate to where to play Lucy Bronze. She started at d-mid against us in Nashville - my memory fails me but I think she was a right-side pivot in a 4-2-3-1? - so we'll see if they go there again. If they do, her replacement will be Rachel Daly, and we should expect Rapinoe to attack mercilessly. Daly does have speed and fresh legs, so that battle isn't a foregone conclusion.

I might expect Stanway or Moore over Keira Walsh also, depending on which would be up to the task of fighting the rugged US midfield. Given her performance against Amel Majri, O'Hara might also be a weak spot against speed and fresh legs, so Beth Mead might appear in that spot.

I'm not entirely sure of any tactics that we should use against England. My main thought is to continue to mark Kirby out of the game - we may not be able to control the wings, especially Parris and Bronze, but we should make sure that they can't go down the middle. If we get that and a strong one-on-one showing from our outside backs again, we should be in great shape. On attack, just do our thing, and hope Millie Bright continues to be off her game.
posted by suckerpunch at 9:39 AM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Er, that should be, Beth Mead might start in place of Toni Duggan to attack O'Hara from the outset. If she doesn't start, she'll be subbed in to do the same, and will be dangerous regardless.
posted by suckerpunch at 9:41 AM on July 2


this is gonna be so stressful, i can't wait to watch with my eyes closed
posted by schadenfrau at 9:41 AM on July 2 [4 favorites]




My other team signed their first new player in like two years so I feel like the soccer gods are smiling on me and today will be a frabjous one for the USWNT.
posted by villanelles at dawn at 10:35 AM on July 2


Bardsley out. Carly Telford in goal.
posted by suckerpunch at 10:39 AM on July 2


Rapinoe out
posted by nubs at 11:04 AM on July 2


Are you people reporting actual roster updates or just speculating?
posted by cyrusdogstar at 11:11 AM on July 2


FIFA liveblog
posted by Pendragon at 11:12 AM on July 2


Rapinoe is not on the starting lineup but is available as a sub.

Source: Twitter | Guardian live
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 11:14 AM on July 2


Saw some updates elsewhere. Sounds like it's a tactical thing. Hope she gets to sub in at some point? Hate the idea of giving chuds any reason to feel happy.
posted by cyrusdogstar at 11:14 AM on July 2


The Sue Bird piece is so good, I have been sharing it all morning! I want my own Megan Goggles.
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 11:15 AM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Sounds like it's a tactical thing. Hope she gets to sub in at some point? Hate the idea of giving chuds any reason to feel happy.

I suspect it might be about getting her some rest
posted by nubs at 11:18 AM on July 2


I love all the Rapinoe love, but there are 10 other women on the field when she’s playing, and they all have to do their jobs to win the game.
posted by GenjiandProust at 11:30 AM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Bronze in midfield, Daly, Mead.

Press over Rapinoe makes sense if you want to cut inside, or just generally play central. Thing is, do you really wanna do that?
posted by suckerpunch at 11:37 AM on July 2


I love all the Rapinoe love, but there are 10 other women on the field when she’s playing, and they all have to do their jobs to win the game.

Yup, this is why I'm not letting myself fret; they're a team, not a bunch of randos orbiting a star.

15 minutes!
posted by cyrusdogstar at 11:45 AM on July 2 [1 favorite]


I hope that England wins this match (just so they can meet Sweden in the finals /// as long as Sweden wins against the Netherlands, of course).

But my logic tells me that the US will win.
posted by Rabarberofficer at 11:52 AM on July 2


Have the US dropped their regular left back also? I thought she was very strong in the last two rounds.
posted by biffa at 12:00 PM on July 2


Ooh a nutmeg.
posted by fleacircus at 12:04 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Like the world, I was surprised to see that Rapinoe wasn't starting, but on the other hand I'm really excited that Christen Press is, she's such a brilliant player. She'd be a nailed-on starter in pretty much any other team.
posted by Kattullus at 12:05 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


That nutmeg, wow.
posted by cmfletcher at 12:06 PM on July 2


YAY CHRISTEN PRESS YAY YAY YAY
posted by Kattullus at 12:09 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


Gorgeous header by Press!
posted by nevercalm at 12:10 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


Deserved. England can’t get a grip.
posted by adrianhon at 12:10 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


BEAUTIFUL PLAY
posted by Rock Steady at 12:11 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Heading the ball is such a difficult skill, and such a good tool for a forward to have in their bag. That goal was extremely well taken by Press.
posted by Kattullus at 12:11 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


That's the best goal in the run of play they've had since the group stage.
posted by Rock Steady at 12:11 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Every time we get the ball in the US third we seem to be giving it away immediately.
posted by biffa at 12:14 PM on July 2


I wonder how much it changes the play when the teams can understand each other when shouting directions on the field.
posted by Liesl at 12:19 PM on July 2


Nice!!!
posted by biffa at 12:19 PM on July 2


Nice evening the score, England!
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:20 PM on July 2


Well crap, it's on now.
posted by TwoStride at 12:20 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


I NEVER SHOULD HAVE OPENED MY EYES
posted by schadenfrau at 12:20 PM on July 2 [5 favorites]


Holy cow, the American defence just completely fell asleep there. Dahlkemper had absolutely no idea where Ellen White was.
posted by Kattullus at 12:20 PM on July 2


It’s game on!
posted by adrianhon at 12:21 PM on July 2


Both beautiful goals
posted by nubs at 12:23 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Dahlkemper is clearly very rattled. I don't understand why her foul on Ellen White in the penalty box didn't at least go to VAR.
posted by Kattullus at 12:23 PM on July 2


my stream quality is garbage and a minute behind twitter but i'm still swooning over that nutmeg; this is a damn match
posted by karayel at 12:25 PM on July 2


Uh-oh, Morgan down and clutching her head.
posted by TwoStride at 12:25 PM on July 2


Because White was diving.
posted by TwoStride at 12:25 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Why didn't Mead just bang that?
posted by biffa at 12:28 PM on July 2


Yiiiiiiikes almost an own goal.
posted by fleacircus at 12:28 PM on July 2


JFC Sauerbronn that was almost an own goal. GET A GRIP.
posted by TwoStride at 12:28 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


This is very stressful. I will say this about men's soccer: not caring who wins makes for a much less intense viewing experience!
posted by grandiloquiet at 12:29 PM on July 2 [5 favorites]


And now Sauerbrunn nearly directs the ball into her own net. USA's central defensive partnership really needs to clear their heads, they look really shaky.
posted by Kattullus at 12:29 PM on July 2


Meanwhile Julie Ertz has really been an unsung hero for the US squad, I feel.
posted by TwoStride at 12:30 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Another brilliantly taken header!
posted by Kattullus at 12:31 PM on July 2


Holy shit fantastic goal Horan to Morgan!
posted by TwoStride at 12:31 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


And what a beautiful pass by Horan.
posted by Kattullus at 12:31 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


I was about to post a comment trashing the US offense, I'm sure glad I looked up.
posted by fleacircus at 12:32 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


it's alex morgan's birthday and this is a helluva party
posted by karayel at 12:33 PM on July 2 [6 favorites]


Nice save.
posted by biffa at 12:33 PM on July 2


What a birthday present for Morgan!
posted by Liesl at 12:33 PM on July 2


Excellent shot, excellent save
posted by adrianhon at 12:33 PM on July 2


That was beautiful.
posted by cmfletcher at 12:33 PM on July 2


Wow that was a great shot and save.
posted by fleacircus at 12:33 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Man, Lavelle is playing way better today than against France.
posted by TwoStride at 12:37 PM on July 2


Bloody hell, USA could be up 5-1 if any of them were willing to flank a pass to an open teammate in the area...
posted by Seeba at 12:38 PM on July 2


Yellow card for Bright taking out Alex Morgan with an arm to the face. Meanwhile, did the commentators give some insane stat on the US record when Alex Morgan scores?
posted by TwoStride at 12:40 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


(I found a group of biology postdocs who are watching the game in a classroom and they have shared their beer with me and what a good game so far!)
posted by ChuraChura at 12:40 PM on July 2 [10 favorites]


Is it Abuse Morgan Day again?
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:41 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


And Horan just gave Scott a black eye, it looks like, which the English bench is mad about, but Scott was draped all over Horan at the time so no call.
posted by TwoStride at 12:42 PM on July 2


They did. They're undefeated in games when she scores. Something like 60-ish wins and a dozen draws.
posted by cmfletcher at 12:43 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


I really dislike Phil Neville, I've decided. He's creepy handsy with his players and an asshole about other teams in interviews.
posted by TwoStride at 12:44 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


I keep reading that Dunn is supposedly the US's weak link, but she's doing a great job against Lucy Bronze, who's absolutely world class.
posted by Kattullus at 12:46 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Oh geez. I’m rooting for the US, but I can’t say I won’t be happy whichever team winds. This is so good.

I do wish they’d stop hitting each other in the face, though.
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:49 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


I’m enjoying shots of Rapinoe from the sidelines, looking like a teen hoodlum in an anime with that hair and jacket, chewing gum and looking insouciant.
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:53 PM on July 2 [11 favorites]


I now understand why people drink while watching sports.
posted by schadenfrau at 12:54 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


Indeed. But FIFA made this a dry stadium, so we just get to live with the stress here.
posted by egregious theorem at 12:58 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


As a Canadian, the USA is my backup backup team in the Men's World Cup every time. And so this time, I am definitely cheering for USA over England.

I'm also cheering for Sweden over NED so that, AS A CANADIAN, I can enjoy seeing those stupid sexy Swedes get some real North American justice handed to them in the final as punishment for eliminating Canada in (a bullshit game in) the Round of 16.
posted by 256 at 12:59 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


That looked like a payback foul.
posted by fleacircus at 1:02 PM on July 2


Help I am so susceptible to Girls Doing Sports Because They Are Inspired By Women Doing Sports commercials and now I have to explain to my new beer-dispensing biology postdoc friends that I am not crying.
posted by ChuraChura at 1:02 PM on July 2 [10 favorites]


That was an extremely late card on Horan, but deserved.
posted by TwoStride at 1:03 PM on July 2


Oh, and that piece by Sue Bird in the first comment is awesome. I saw it earlier in the day linked form elsewhere and was just like fucking right. Reminds me of the relationship between Caroline Ouelette and (absolute favourite athlete in this household) Julie Chu.
posted by 256 at 1:04 PM on July 2


Is the violence...progressing?
posted by schadenfrau at 1:04 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Yes it's been very chippy and Ellen White just decided to fuck with the goalie.
posted by TwoStride at 1:06 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


And then someone else just kicked an American in the ankle?
posted by schadenfrau at 1:07 PM on July 2


Scott is gonna get carded before this game is over, I think.
posted by TwoStride at 1:07 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


There's a *lot* of needle in this game. It feels like one of those games between national teams whose countries went to war during the players' parents' twenties.
posted by Kattullus at 1:08 PM on July 2 [6 favorites]


Indeed. But FIFA made this a dry stadium, so we just get to live with the stress here.

Wow, really! That's...different. Is there not-sexist explanation for this? The last I heard re: FIFA's usual approach to alcohol, they were trampling over local laws to ensure their sponsors could sell at the games.
posted by grandiloquiet at 1:09 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


I'd like to see the ref clamp down on this chippiness.
posted by TwoStride at 1:09 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Be cool, everyone. Special Relationship and all.
posted by Rock Steady at 1:09 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Oh man that's the second time Ertz has shot it over the goal.
posted by TwoStride at 1:11 PM on July 2


I keep thinking the USA is in white because that kit is really not "USA Red".
posted by Rock Steady at 1:12 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Pass the bloody football!
posted by Seeba at 1:12 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Yeah I'm not sure what Lavelle thought was going to happen there.
posted by fleacircus at 1:13 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


The players themselves seem to be getting more and more pissed off in a weirdly bitter way. I keep wincing.

Please no one kill anyone else?
posted by schadenfrau at 1:14 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


I think booze was banned in stadiums in the 2018 WC and will be in 2022 also.
posted by biffa at 1:14 PM on July 2


England's players are reacting like every single whistle that goes against them is a horrible call.
posted by fleacircus at 1:14 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


I now understand why people drink while watching sports.

went to the bodega for beer during halftime because I realized I was gonna need it for this
posted by karayel at 1:14 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Two nations divided by the Atlantic Ocean a French stadium.

And constantly going at each other....
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:15 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


I keep thinking the USA is in white because that kit is really not "USA Red".

Yeah for some reason I expected a dour navy; I like the red more, but it's hard to remember who I'm cheering for.
posted by grandiloquiet at 1:15 PM on July 2


Oh man Press just totally blew that chance.
posted by TwoStride at 1:16 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Oh come on, Press!
posted by ceejaytee at 1:16 PM on July 2


Just dribble into the box and then don't pass or anything, that's a plan.
posted by fleacircus at 1:19 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Time to mix it up Phil.
posted by biffa at 1:20 PM on July 2


Shit, looks like Lavelle's hamstring went. She's down.
posted by TwoStride at 1:20 PM on July 2


She got over excited!

I looked away for one second what did they do to Lavelle? Christ this game
posted by schadenfrau at 1:21 PM on July 2


oh no (Lavelle has been a delight today)
posted by karayel at 1:21 PM on July 2


Was Neville creepy touching a US player?
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:22 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


lol England’s goalie: Jesus not in the box guys
posted by schadenfrau at 1:22 PM on July 2


Lavelle was fantatic this match. The replay showed some closeups of Daly (I think) yanking all over at the end, which probably didn't help, but apparently she's been coming back from an injury which also doesn't help.
posted by TwoStride at 1:22 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Yes Neville was.
posted by TwoStride at 1:23 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Oh that was simple and beautiful.
posted by fleacircus at 1:23 PM on July 2


Wohooooo! Beautiful England!
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:24 PM on July 2


Well, fuck. England ties it up.
posted by TwoStride at 1:24 PM on July 2


Awwwwwww yeah
posted by adrianhon at 1:24 PM on July 2


How wasn't she offside?

Oh wait, VAR check.
posted by Kattullus at 1:24 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


oh fuck (i'm so glad i got the beer)
posted by karayel at 1:24 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


She was offside.
posted by Kattullus at 1:24 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Nice finish but looked offside to me.
posted by biffa at 1:24 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Boooooooooo
posted by adrianhon at 1:24 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


WHOA NO GOAL!
posted by TwoStride at 1:25 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


That looks offside
posted by 256 at 1:25 PM on July 2


Action and Drama!!!
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:26 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Pump up the volume!
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:26 PM on July 2


Ah VAR offside toe, I am relieved but overall disapproving of this sort of thing
posted by grandiloquiet at 1:27 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


This is so dramatic I’m actually nauseous

Why do I enjoy this
posted by schadenfrau at 1:27 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


This has been a dicey 10 minutes for the US. Get control, run the clock, and please take the ball back to England's final third, please and thank you.
posted by TwoStride at 1:28 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


Ah VAR offside toe, I am relieved but overall disapproving of this sort of thing
Yes, exactly.
posted by TwoStride at 1:29 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Oh, that was a beautiful slide dribble/fake.
posted by 256 at 1:31 PM on July 2


Shit, now there's call for a stretcher for Tobin Heath. I didnt' see what happened; cramps, maybe?
posted by TwoStride at 1:32 PM on July 2


What is Heath whining about?
posted by biffa at 1:32 PM on July 2


There was clearly no foul, but it doesn't take a foul to hurt yourself.
posted by 256 at 1:34 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


What the hell. 11 v 10?
posted by 256 at 1:34 PM on July 2


White's quite a flopper.
posted by fleacircus at 1:35 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


How did that not go in? Swiss commentator reckons pen...
posted by biffa at 1:35 PM on July 2


Second dive for Ellen White.
posted by TwoStride at 1:36 PM on July 2


Oh man the expression on the refs face
posted by schadenfrau at 1:36 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


That looked like a penalty to me. But I have no idea what's going on anymore.
posted by Kattullus at 1:36 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


There was clear contact or the chasing US player wouldn't have tripped forward.
posted by biffa at 1:37 PM on July 2


I could just about see the referee ruling that there had been a collision ... nope, foul and penalty,
posted by Kattullus at 1:38 PM on July 2


Ooooooohhhhhh
posted by adrianhon at 1:38 PM on July 2


VAR strikes again!
posted by TwoStride at 1:38 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


If this is a penalty, then VAR can go to hell.
posted by 256 at 1:39 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Yesss...but why only yellow?
posted by biffa at 1:39 PM on July 2


Oh FFS.
posted by biffa at 1:39 PM on July 2


Oh dear.
posted by fleacircus at 1:39 PM on July 2


PENALTY DENIED!!!
posted by TwoStride at 1:39 PM on July 2


.
posted by 256 at 1:40 PM on July 2


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH WHAT A SAVE
posted by Kattullus at 1:40 PM on July 2 [7 favorites]


DRAMA
posted by adrianhon at 1:40 PM on July 2


extremely happy that we're now regularly stopping the game for 5-10 minutes to make decisions no one understands! very cool!
posted by grandiloquiet at 1:40 PM on July 2 [6 favorites]


Yes!
posted by cmfletcher at 1:40 PM on July 2


The US goalie looked like she was going to throw up and then BAM

Right there with you lady
posted by schadenfrau at 1:40 PM on July 2 [8 favorites]


BALL DON'T LIE
posted by Huffy Puffy at 1:41 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Ugh now there's gonna be like 8 minutes of stoppage time tacked onto this, though.
posted by TwoStride at 1:41 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


My mother in law is extremely excited right now. I don't think she's ever seen a full Soccer Game ever...
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:41 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


I just scared the shit out of my dog
posted by villanelles at dawn at 1:41 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


Naeher is doing well today, especially after almost getting trampled.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:41 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Houghton looked like she was going to throw up before taking the shot too.
posted by 256 at 1:42 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Bright has been sent off!!
posted by TwoStride at 1:42 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


can I give the other beer to alyssa naeher
posted by karayel at 1:42 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


High drama!
posted by fleacircus at 1:42 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Holy shit. Red card.
posted by ceejaytee at 1:42 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Man, another serious chance for England.
posted by 256 at 1:43 PM on July 2


Holy shit Morgan was literally spun in the air

11 on 10 now
posted by schadenfrau at 1:43 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


It was her second yellow, not a straight red.
posted by cmfletcher at 1:43 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Deserved yellow, but 11v10 is a sad way to see this end.
posted by 256 at 1:44 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Yes
posted by ceejaytee at 1:44 PM on July 2


Second yellow so it's a red card.
posted by Carillon at 1:44 PM on July 2


Come on, you are champions; stop being maniacs!
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:45 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


England has looked like they could still score one woman down though.
posted by fleacircus at 1:46 PM on July 2


This is now technically a melee, no?
posted by schadenfrau at 1:46 PM on July 2 [5 favorites]


Well Morgan did spin in the air but I wouldn't rule out her agency.
posted by biffa at 1:46 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Hmm that Morgan suuuure likes getting intimate with the grass ...
posted by Faintdreams at 1:46 PM on July 2


Nikita Parris with some nice judo moves, there.
posted by TwoStride at 1:46 PM on July 2


7 minutes! Thanks, VAR!
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:47 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


I don't like Phil Neville's yelly face. It's kind of scary.
posted by ceejaytee at 1:48 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


lol White is a dick

That’s not even a criticism
posted by schadenfrau at 1:48 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


White really likes Naeher....
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:49 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


And yeah england is impressively aggressive one player down

Also I think we might be fucking up, but I don’t know enough to know how
posted by schadenfrau at 1:49 PM on July 2


This should be a tie game, the drama should be MORE.
posted by fleacircus at 1:50 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Wow, is that the third ropey throw in of the game? Two for England, one for US by my count.
posted by biffa at 1:51 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Oh, Stokes.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:51 PM on July 2


I will die if this goes to extra time. But I will enjoy the afterlife.
posted by 256 at 1:51 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


They're gonna go down shovin'.
posted by fleacircus at 1:51 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


What a match.
posted by flamewise at 1:51 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


Did Parris punch Morgan in the back of the head?
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:52 PM on July 2


I am staffing the circulation desk at my library, keeping an eye on the playbyplays. I have no mouth, yet I must scream.
posted by robocop is bleeding at 1:53 PM on July 2 [8 favorites]


...That’s a shovin’
posted by adrianhon at 1:53 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


That's game.
posted by 256 at 1:53 PM on July 2


Game over! Ref blew the whistle mighty quick since it looked like it was just gonna be more shoving, I think.
posted by TwoStride at 1:54 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Ok. Congrats US!
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:54 PM on July 2


The bar's direct tv cut out at 5 min extra time. Did we win? >:o
posted by Hermeowne Grangepurr at 1:54 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


Oh. My. God. The best play, but bad attitude.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:54 PM on July 2


holy shit what a match, even if it got kinda nasty in the second half
posted by karayel at 1:54 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


Whew. OK. I wasn't confident enough of the US defense (in this game anyway) to feel comfortable with 20 minutes of time-wasting, which is what they did here...AT LEAST 20 minutes since we tried to score...I hate tempting fate like that. I thought we looked a lot better against France; this game was nerve-wracking.
posted by grandiloquiet at 1:55 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


2-1 USA
posted by 256 at 1:55 PM on July 2


😢🚫🏠
posted by adrianhon at 1:55 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


Well that certainly felt like the most exciting game so far. Pity England couldn't maintain the intensity they showed at times.
posted by biffa at 1:55 PM on July 2


Honestly, either Sweden or Netherlands will make for a great final.
posted by 256 at 1:56 PM on July 2 [5 favorites]


(I'm rolling my eyes at the England women's behavior, given how roundly they castigated Cameroon for ... lots of fouling, being irritated at VAR, and yelling at the refs)
posted by ChuraChura at 1:56 PM on July 2 [7 favorites]


It's coming home!
posted by villanelles at dawn at 1:56 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Yes, I would have liked the US women to try to score again rather than just run to a shoving match in the corner for 20 agonizing minutes.

Naeher came up huge in goal for us; I imagine there's gonna be a lot of discussion about the goalie switch for England?
posted by TwoStride at 1:57 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


This is why nothing compares to great top tier sports. Ice packs for everyone!
posted by cmfletcher at 1:57 PM on July 2 [5 favorites]


Am I crazy or was there not a lot of cross-team comforting this time around
posted by schadenfrau at 1:58 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


I saw a reasonable amount on the BBC, seemed fine
posted by adrianhon at 1:59 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


With all the deserved criticism of Phil Neville, I will say that he has an excellent "you didn't win but you did yourself proud" face.
posted by Kattullus at 1:59 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


If England had won, we might have gotten to see Neville creepy touch a referee. Or VAR.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:02 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


They'll want to rest up before the final. Hopefully they've found a comfy hotel!
posted by villanelles at dawn at 2:03 PM on July 2 [9 favorites]


That was a fun, it felt like a good chance for a goal might happen at any moment, I want another 90 minutes...
posted by fleacircus at 2:04 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


the entirely of my twitter feed is dunking on piers morgan right now and it's a beautiful sight (matt pearce of the la times just tweeted him a copy of washington crossing the delaware and i may possibly be having a patriotic feeling, it's very strange)
posted by karayel at 2:05 PM on July 2 [10 favorites]


(note to england supporters in the thread: as a former resident of your fair country i wish you well and do not in any way hold you responsible for the existence of piers morgan)
posted by karayel at 2:07 PM on July 2 [9 favorites]


Friends, can I just share how much I loathe Alexei Lalas? My hatred for him as a commentator is approaching my loathing of Bob Costas.

LOL Alex Morgan using "ass" on air and then apologizing for it.
posted by TwoStride at 2:11 PM on July 2 [6 favorites]


Well.

That was intense.
posted by kyrademon at 2:26 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


No, a circus is in tents; that was in a stadium. (And kind of insane.)
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:41 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


In that picture of Megan Rapinoe hugging Ellen White after the game was over, White is caught in mid emotion shift between 'agony of defeat' and 'damn that is one good hug'.
posted by Kattullus at 2:49 PM on July 2 [7 favorites]


I apologize for that; please don’t kick me out of football club!
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:50 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


More seriously, I was a bit afraid at the 60 minute mark that this was going to turn into the Women’s Russia versus Croatia, with both teams coming out so battered that they had trouble pushing through the next round.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:55 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


This has made me want to go to the gym
posted by schadenfrau at 3:08 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


I opened up Spotify to listen to music while putting away the last of the dishes and it immediately suggested that I listen to “Three Lions”.

Cold, Spotify, cold.
posted by Kattullus at 3:28 PM on July 2 [6 favorites]


It seemed England were a bit nervous at the start and were overrun by America's pressing game and superior fitness. The fitness and experience meant when it came to the crunch America simply executed better than England. America stepped up a gear from the last round and England couldn't respond.

The tournament itself has been amazing though. I'm hoping the huge audiences mean that more people will watch the Women's Premier League in the UK and it will snowball.

Alex Morgan still makes Neymar look fucking stoic though.
posted by fullerine at 3:29 PM on July 2 [3 favorites]


Edit: Women's Super League, not Premier League.
posted by fullerine at 3:36 PM on July 2


Her one legged lift off 360 jump spin was athletically impressive though

Like to me that looked like an attempt to protect her right leg, but one that required a fast reaction time and a lot of core strength

What is the Alex Morgan workout
posted by schadenfrau at 3:40 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


fullerine: Alex Morgan still makes Neymar look fucking stoic though

Alex Morgan, like Neymar, gets fouled a lot, often very roughly. I don’t know why she should pretend it doesn’t hurt to have studs driven into her shin.
posted by Kattullus at 3:41 PM on July 2 [7 favorites]


To be fair, the American strategy to close out the game appeared to be, "let Alex Morgan dribble into the corner and get fouled until the whistle blows." I don't think she was overdoing it in the first hour of play (nor indeed in most games).
posted by grandiloquiet at 3:41 PM on July 2 [2 favorites]


Yeah, I am tempted to rewatch this game and drink every time the US dribbled to the last third and just loses possession instead of doing anything useful with it.

Can't wait to see how the Daily Heil follows up this horrible story from yesterday. (Which is even more delightful to see again now.)
posted by fifteen schnitzengruben is my limit at 3:59 PM on July 2 [4 favorites]


Just caught up, had to record this one. Nothing clever to add to the commentary, but what a great game. Only advantage to recording is fast forwarding through VAR breaks, glad I can watch live tomorrow.

C'mon Oranje!
posted by the primroses were over at 4:02 PM on July 2 [1 favorite]


Alex Morgan still makes Neymar look fucking stoic though.

I dunno. One of my most treasured memories from last year’s World Cup was watching a replay in a bar, and a regular who doesn’t follow football looked up at the screen where Neymar was rolling around, and said “is he breakdancing?”

She wouldn’t say that about Morgan.
posted by GenjiandProust at 4:06 PM on July 2 [6 favorites]


Yeah, that spin was more ice dance than break dance.
posted by biffa at 5:39 AM on July 3 [2 favorites]


Wow, really! That's...different. Is there not-sexist explanation for this? The last I heard re: FIFA's usual approach to alcohol, they were trampling over local laws to ensure their sponsors could sell at the games.

The story I heard (from this piece) is that FIFA didn’t line up a beer sponsor, and only sponsors are allowed to sell inside the stadium. (The concessions in Rennes and Le Havre were identical, and you could only pay with cash or Visa, no other cards accepted.)
posted by asterix at 9:13 AM on July 3 [2 favorites]


And here I was assuming it was for some wholesome reason, like to keep people from getting into drunken fights.

There was beer yesterday, but it was non alcoholic and only a single stand outside the stadium was selling it.
posted by egregious theorem at 10:13 AM on July 3 [1 favorite]


I did wonder whether that might have played a role. Same on sponsors in Valenciennes and Reims.

They were selling non-alcoholic beer at WWC 2019. They were also pushing a lot of plastic. You had to take a capless plastic 500ml bottle and a hard plastic beaker if you wanted a drink. Given they were messaging importance of hydration in 32 degree temps it was pretty shit in terms of environmental impact.
posted by biffa at 10:14 AM on July 3


It's France — no wine in the stadium?
posted by exogenous at 10:24 AM on July 3


Interesting analysis from Eni Aluko in the Guardian, here, regarding the US v England game (focusing on Neville's tactics).

I play adult rec soccer and lots of women from my leagues are over in France right now, posting pics from games. I'm extremely jealous!
posted by JenMarie at 10:27 AM on July 3 [2 favorites]


egregious theorem: they've had non-alcoholic beer at all the games I believe (definitely all the ones I went to). It really is a standard menu; the only difference between Le Havre and Rennes was that you could also get a galette saucisse in Rennes.
posted by asterix at 11:07 AM on July 3


Guardian live blog, in case any one follows that, here. Rosters released for today's game.
posted by JenMarie at 11:44 AM on July 3


Here we go!! HUP HOLLAND HUP!!
posted by Pendragon at 11:59 AM on July 3


Hurtig instead of Janogy for the Swedes - the safe choice, but maybe not the better one. Beerensteyn instead of van der Sanden for the Dutch - not the safe choice, but definitely the better one.
posted by suckerpunch at 11:59 AM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Huh, so Beerensteyn in the Dutch team, I always thought it was Beerenstayn.
posted by Kattullus at 12:00 PM on July 3 [10 favorites]


That was a weird shot/center/pass to the goalie by Hurtig.
posted by fleacircus at 12:09 PM on July 3


I think the ball had gone off the field already, which is a shame because Hurtig almost avenged the honor of Jan Olsson there.
posted by Kattullus at 12:13 PM on July 3


I guess I'm rooting for the Netherlands because they look like a better passing team.
posted by fleacircus at 12:14 PM on July 3


the honor of Jan Olsson

Oh no that honor is impossible to regain.
posted by fleacircus at 12:17 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


I'm pretty neutral on this one; I just want a fun, flowing game.
posted by TwoStride at 12:18 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Except for the trampling of Van Veenendaal, this is a refreshingly slaughter-free game.
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:29 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Come on Sweden! Keep that pressure up!
posted by Rabarberofficer at 12:30 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Feels like Sweden is sitting back, playing the sort of game I would expect from a team up a goal much later in the game, or the sort of passive football that has almost gotten the US in trouble a couple times in this tournament.
posted by firechicago at 12:34 PM on July 3


Yeah, the commentator talking about how conservative it is right now, with each team playing it (too) safe.
posted by TwoStride at 12:35 PM on July 3


Another corner for Sweden. Come on, get it in!
posted by Rabarberofficer at 12:36 PM on July 3


Wow, nice clear by the dutch!
posted by Hermeowne Grangepurr at 12:38 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Currently Sweden with 9 fouls, Netherlands with 1...
posted by TwoStride at 12:38 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


This is like a team of younger sisters playing a team of their mean older sisters.
posted by fleacircus at 12:44 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


Oh my gosh! So much action in front of the Swedish goal....
posted by Rabarberofficer at 12:45 PM on July 3


Nice corner win there.
posted by fleacircus at 12:45 PM on July 3


er shoulda been
posted by fleacircus at 12:45 PM on July 3


I’m a little worried that this game is going to be decided by some bullshit penalty. Probably after 20 minutes of VAR RERUNS.
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:49 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


That was clearly a corner... Are those not VAR-able ?
posted by Pendragon at 12:49 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Feel like the Dutch midfielders aren't coming back or getting in position to help the back line move the ball forward. I know that they love to spring folks in behind, but stretching out the field and banging longballs isn't working. Try to get VDD high and central with the ball.
posted by suckerpunch at 12:51 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


VAR’s just holding off for its chance to ruin everything.
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:52 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


So, VAR is waiting to make a ... FARCE of this game ?


sorry...
posted by Pendragon at 12:54 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


The Netherlands are looking pretty aimless, but they keep stoping Sweden. Secret master plan, or is it just that Van Veenendaal is the hardest-working woman on the pitch?
posted by GenjiandProust at 12:54 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


lol HAO saying BRING ON THE PLAYER THAT PLAYS EXACTLY LIKE I DO
posted by suckerpunch at 12:55 PM on July 3


Which team will the US have an easier time with?
posted by kokaku at 1:05 PM on July 3


BLACKSTENIUS i love their early albums
posted by fleacircus at 1:05 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Is it Sweden’s Birthday? Holland keeps giving them corners....
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:08 PM on July 3


fleacircus, I'm pretty much rooting for Sweden just because I love hearing the announcers say Blackstenius
posted by kokaku at 1:12 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


Oh..!! Noooooo....
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:14 PM on July 3


How mans corners for Sweden? All of them. All the corners.

How many saves from Van Veenendaal? All of them, so far.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:15 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


I keep mistaking the ref for a Swedish player (I mean that literally and visually, not in a "hard to win playing 11-on-14 hurr hurr" way.)
posted by fleacircus at 1:16 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


The last time Sweden played the ref wore all black. I guess so she wouldn't be wearing a yellow shirt. She must have been suffocating though because it was like a gazillion degrees that day.
posted by ceejaytee at 1:18 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


oh my gawwwwwd
posted by fleacircus at 1:21 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Lindahl getting in on the spectacular save racket.
posted by Kattullus at 1:22 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


Good save!
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:22 PM on July 3


Whew, Lindahl.
posted by ceejaytee at 1:22 PM on July 3


I keep mistaking the ref for a Swedish player

Ok, I'm glad it's not just me.

Also, woodwork for MVP?
posted by egregious theorem at 1:23 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


It’s like a duel between goalies....
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:24 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


VIGGY WITH THE FINGERTIPS
posted by suckerpunch at 1:25 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


It looked to me that Hurtig was hacked down. How on Earth did that not at least go to VAR?
posted by Kattullus at 1:25 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Though I suppose that the VAR team probably reviewed it and decided nothing happened.
posted by Kattullus at 1:27 PM on July 3


Gotta admit Hurtig's been better than I expected, and Beerensteyn's been much, much worse.
posted by suckerpunch at 1:31 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Feels like a big corner...
posted by fleacircus at 1:33 PM on July 3


On the other end of the field I meant of course.
posted by fleacircus at 1:34 PM on July 3


has anyone made a blonde on blonde joke yet?
posted by kokaku at 1:42 PM on July 3


Von de Donk is probably going to remember that opportunity for a long time.
posted by fleacircus at 1:43 PM on July 3


I'm still pulling for the Dutch, but if Sweden wins, let it be on a goal from Seger, who is a damn legend.
posted by suckerpunch at 1:46 PM on July 3


I literally fell asleep at halftime, just waking up for this desperate flurry by Sweden now.
posted by TwoStride at 1:47 PM on July 3


It's definitely developed a pulse!

I want to see Blackstenius score 1 on 4.
posted by fleacircus at 1:49 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


I just love the Swedish goalie right now.
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:50 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


viggy lindahl y'all
posted by suckerpunch at 1:51 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


I have a heart-out-of-body experience right now...
posted by Rabarberofficer at 1:53 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Nice closeup of a Dutch player saying "Fuck" in response to the final whistle.
posted by fleacircus at 1:54 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


how hot is it in lyon today? everybody looks so sweaty and tired (except van de sanden who just looks amazing) and now it's going to extra time, whew
posted by karayel at 1:54 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Bloodworth yelling 'fuck' as the whistle blew, just saying what we're all thinking
posted by suckerpunch at 1:55 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


The Guardian: “The deadlock remains unbroken, so there’ll be 30 energy-sapping minutes of extra-time. USA are the big winners here so far.”

Yup.
posted by GenjiandProust at 1:58 PM on July 3 [4 favorites]


I was going to say, the only people happy about this are the Americans.
posted by schadenfrau at 2:01 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


I wonder if Sweden got demoralized by not getting a goal... they look like they've lost their fight a little bit.
posted by fleacircus at 2:06 PM on July 3


Well, they'll need to find their fight now.
posted by Kattullus at 2:08 PM on July 3


That's how passing a lot is supposed to work!
posted by fleacircus at 2:08 PM on July 3


Do not fuck this up, VAR.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:08 PM on July 3


YES!!!! HUP HOLLAND !!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:08 PM on July 3


What a beautiful goal!
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:10 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


that was a lovely goal from Groenen; I wish my feed hadn't seized up right before they started replaying it from all angles
posted by karayel at 2:12 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


What the hell were those Dutch fans doing behind the Dutch goal? I don't know even how to describe it ... rocking back and forth in a square, or something.
posted by Kattullus at 2:13 PM on July 3


I guess sometimes you just need to push the defender into the goalkeeper.
posted by fleacircus at 2:14 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Something else I noticed earlier in the tournament, why is it 'player of the match' rather than 'woman of the match'?
posted by biffa at 2:15 PM on July 3


The women definitely look red-faced and exhausted. It's gotten exciting again but I do hope that it helps the US, especially with the US getting an extra day of rest.
posted by TwoStride at 2:15 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Holland has woken up.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:16 PM on July 3


I am imagining the US team gathered around a tv in an air conditioned room, taking notes.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:18 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


You know who hasn't gotten tired? The audience band.
posted by TwoStride at 2:19 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Did you all get the sudden burst of Swedish fans singing a song of support?

Catchy it was not.
posted by biffa at 2:19 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Kattullus, I didn't see it, but it could be that line-dancy thing they do - there's a silly song called 'Links Rechts' where everyone hops side to side.
posted by suckerpunch at 2:19 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


Sweden really miss Hurtig. That whole flank has become a lot less productive for them since she was taken off.
posted by Kattullus at 2:20 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Miedema always looks perturbed.
posted by TwoStride at 2:23 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Dutch fans are crazy. Here they are supporting Max Verstappen at the Austrian Grand Prix.
posted by Pendragon at 2:24 PM on July 3 [2 favorites]


The announcer said Netherlands is like "USA-light" which doesn't seem right to me, the comparison is probably over my head.
posted by fleacircus at 2:33 PM on July 3


... is one of the Swedish trainers using a cell phone light to see the player they're treating?
posted by TwoStride at 2:34 PM on July 3


Aw, shit.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:36 PM on July 3


Looks serious, I hope she's ok....
posted by Pendragon at 2:36 PM on July 3


I hope she's okay.
posted by ceejaytee at 2:37 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


I hope she’s OK....
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:37 PM on July 3


Good showing from the Dutch fans to signal support as Aslani stretchered off. Looking at the replay looks like she was knocked out? Brutal.
posted by TwoStride at 2:39 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


YES!!!! Netherlands go through!!!
posted by Pendragon at 2:40 PM on July 3


That’s a terrible ending. I’m glad for Holland, but... not what I wanted to see.
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:40 PM on July 3 [3 favorites]


That was a strange end to the game. Asllani's has brought so many joyful moments to this tournament, what an awful way to end it.
posted by Kattullus at 2:41 PM on July 3 [7 favorites]


God. I hope she's ok. Women's soccer is legit scary.
posted by schadenfrau at 2:43 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


Is it just me, or was Van de Sanden pretty much unsupported since she can on?
posted by GenjiandProust at 2:43 PM on July 3


US is the clear favourite in the final.
posted by Pendragon at 2:43 PM on July 3


I dunno, I could see a really frustratingly long 1-1 stretch in the final.
posted by TwoStride at 2:45 PM on July 3 [1 favorite]


It looked like it might not be so bad, just like a punch in the jaw, not the momentum of the body landing badly. Hoping it's very temporary.
posted by fleacircus at 2:46 PM on July 3 [5 favorites]


It appears that the Swedish team has made statements that Asllani's more or less OK. CT and MRI didn’t show anything worrying, which is a relief.
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:06 AM on July 4 [4 favorites]


Phew, that's good news!
posted by TwoStride at 6:27 PM on July 5 [2 favorites]


Asllani’s fit to start today’s game, which I will miss, sadly. On the one hand, third place playoffs reek of regrets and broken dreams, but they have a tendency to be wildly entertaining.
posted by Kattullus at 7:35 AM on July 6 [3 favorites]


I'm rooting for Sweden today!

Does our discussion continue in this thread?
posted by TwoStride at 7:46 AM on July 6 [1 favorite]


A new thread might be more appropriate. Otherwise we’ll be at like 700 comments by the end of tomorrow.
posted by GenjiandProust at 7:51 AM on July 6


I think a new thread for the final is best. That’s when people go looking for a thread.
posted by Kattullus at 7:54 AM on July 6 [2 favorites]


ok I emailed the mods
posted by TwoStride at 7:58 AM on July 6 [1 favorite]


Commentators just said that there have been 31 VAR reviews and 27 of them overturned calls on the field. Ugh.
posted by TwoStride at 7:59 AM on July 6 [1 favorite]


Argh. All the bars in my neighborhood are closed; looks like I’ll come in at ~30 minute mark. Grrr.
posted by GenjiandProust at 8:09 AM on July 6 [1 favorite]


Boo. It's off to a good start for now! Though one of England's defenders is down at the moment.

And Asllani just scored!! So happy for her!
posted by TwoStride at 8:11 AM on July 6 [5 favorites]


Oook, and Jakobsson just sent one that was saved by the post. England looking pretty hapless at the moment.
posted by TwoStride at 8:16 AM on July 6


I just posted a thread for the third place match, thanks TwoStride for the nudge.
posted by LobsterMitten at 8:18 AM on July 6 [2 favorites]


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