Reply All: #48 I Love You, I Loathe You
December 10, 2015 6:10 AM - Subscribe
On this week's episode, a new Yes Yes No, and we revisit our "Undo, Undo, Undo" segment to find out listeners most cringeworthy accidental messages.
Spoilers: @ProfJeffJarvis writes "Just reviewing my daily big data metrics. A startling conclusion: delete your account."
Spoilers: @ProfJeffJarvis writes "Just reviewing my daily big data metrics. A startling conclusion: delete your account."
Okay, okay, I signed up for the newsletter.
posted by dinty_moore at 7:20 AM on December 10, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by dinty_moore at 7:20 AM on December 10, 2015 [1 favorite]
I've had a somewhat shitty week because my already gruelling commute is about to turn into a three hour cluster fuck in January (thanks Swedish government) and listening to this on the train this morning actually went a long way to shaking me out of it. Sitting on the train listening to an enthralling podcast is not a terrible way to spend time after all. Too bad if the other passengers though I was crazy as I giggled and gasped through it, but the twists in both the yes yes no and in the two listener stories were too good to fully suppress my reaction.
posted by shelleycat at 8:41 AM on December 10, 2015
posted by shelleycat at 8:41 AM on December 10, 2015
It was a genuinely fun episode. Yes yes no is a really great mechanism for explaining some of the intricacies of the web.
posted by maxsparber at 9:39 AM on December 10, 2015
posted by maxsparber at 9:39 AM on December 10, 2015
I definitely got excited when Alex Goldman mentioned the Scott Adams thing. I love being reminded that Goldman is one of us! (So is PJ but I think he's less of a regular.)
I actually do enjoy their newsletter. One time PJ randomly recommended an calendar app called Sunrise that I started using and like way better than the regular built-in iOS calendar.
posted by radioamy at 10:25 AM on December 10, 2015 [1 favorite]
I actually do enjoy their newsletter. One time PJ randomly recommended an calendar app called Sunrise that I started using and like way better than the regular built-in iOS calendar.
posted by radioamy at 10:25 AM on December 10, 2015 [1 favorite]
Kalila sounds like a queen among men, so I've signed up for the newsletter.
posted by giraffe at 12:01 PM on December 10, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by giraffe at 12:01 PM on December 10, 2015 [1 favorite]
Did anyone else notice that there was some interlude music that sounded suspiciously like the theme song for TLDR (PJ & Alex's old show on WNYC)?
posted by radioamy at 8:42 PM on December 10, 2015
posted by radioamy at 8:42 PM on December 10, 2015
The resurrected @projeffjarvis Twitter handle mentioned Reply All.
posted by radioamy at 9:40 AM on December 11, 2015
posted by radioamy at 9:40 AM on December 11, 2015
They were way too fake concerned about that Prof Jeff Jarvis tweet.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 11:55 AM on December 11, 2015
posted by Potomac Avenue at 11:55 AM on December 11, 2015
Or rather, I don't think it was fake, but misdirected. Prof JJs satire is actually very heart felt outrage at the bullshit and lies that are promulgated by charlatans on and about the web. That fake Eiffel Tower tweet is just as important as the sincere connections people make and the news they get. It's good to feel things, but beware. There are bastards out there who will exploit news like this to spread lies and misinformation for their own aggrandizement.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 12:01 PM on December 11, 2015 [1 favorite]
posted by Potomac Avenue at 12:01 PM on December 11, 2015 [1 favorite]
And besides the real Jeff Jarvis is not a kindly old professor but a nonsense peddler of the highest order.
posted by Potomac Avenue at 12:02 PM on December 11, 2015 [2 favorites]
posted by Potomac Avenue at 12:02 PM on December 11, 2015 [2 favorites]
I think the vanishing of @darth caused people to freak out about the Prof going dark.
posted by rhizome at 1:05 PM on December 11, 2015
posted by rhizome at 1:05 PM on December 11, 2015
rhizome - oh shit you're right, darth is gone. How did I miss that?
posted by radioamy at 3:33 PM on December 11, 2015
posted by radioamy at 3:33 PM on December 11, 2015
OK pretty sure that the next Reply All needs to be a Darth investigation. I mean, who else is going to photoshop santa hats on my dog?
posted by radioamy at 3:36 PM on December 11, 2015
posted by radioamy at 3:36 PM on December 11, 2015
This is the first Yes Yes No where I was a "No" until they explained it, and now I'm a "Yes". I mean I was familiar with all the stuff they discussed but not familiar enough to put it together. Great segment!
The other part about the cringe stories was not good. I hope they don't try that again.
posted by Nelson at 9:43 PM on December 14, 2015
The other part about the cringe stories was not good. I hope they don't try that again.
posted by Nelson at 9:43 PM on December 14, 2015
I loved the part with the cringe stories and hope they find more. I also liked hearing about the technological solutions to sending embarrassing emails that now exist, although I probably wouldn't use them.
posted by shelleycat at 9:39 AM on December 15, 2015
posted by shelleycat at 9:39 AM on December 15, 2015
Or rather, I don't think it was fake, but misdirected. Prof JJs satire is actually very heart felt outrage at the bullshit and lies that are promulgated by charlatans on and about the web. That fake Eiffel Tower tweet is just as important as the sincere connections people make and the news they get. It's good to feel things, but beware. There are bastards out there who will exploit news like this to spread lies and misinformation for their own aggrandizement.
Yeah, I was thinking of that Sikh programmer that was photoshopped to look like a terrorist in the wake of the Paris bombing - the Eiffel Tower tweet was harmless, sure, but people will also pass on misinformation at the time that does end up being harmful, and I don't think a reminder to look for a source before passing it on is really amiss. Though I'm not really sure if passing on your own misinformation is really the best way to make that point.
posted by dinty_moore at 9:59 AM on December 15, 2015
Yeah, I was thinking of that Sikh programmer that was photoshopped to look like a terrorist in the wake of the Paris bombing - the Eiffel Tower tweet was harmless, sure, but people will also pass on misinformation at the time that does end up being harmful, and I don't think a reminder to look for a source before passing it on is really amiss. Though I'm not really sure if passing on your own misinformation is really the best way to make that point.
posted by dinty_moore at 9:59 AM on December 15, 2015
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I guess I'm more cynical than they are because when they were describing the premise of fake Jeff Jarvis my first thought was that I needed to be following that account immediately. And while I understand the 'too soon' sentiment, I can't disagree with the lesson he was trying to impart there, feelings be damned. Also it looks like that account is active again! Full disclosure: I have a few minutes left on the episode before I can finish at the end of the day, so maybe they explain what happened at the end. But after glancing over at @profjeffjarvis ... it looks like he's getting a lot of millage out of whatever transpired.
ProfJeffChristmas @ProfJeffJarvis 20h ago
Have you deleted your account today? And if not, why not?
posted by the_querulous_night at 6:20 AM on December 10, 2015