Supernatural: Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets
February 8, 2017 1:46 AM - Season 12, Episode 10 - Subscribe

Castiel investigates the murders of several old angel comrades, which may or may not have something to do with the fact that, even for an unreconstructed angel, their former garrison commander is a hugely creepy jerk.

Spoiler alert: That is exactly why a human lady cosplaying Nick Fury is revenge-stabbing all the angels who had a hand in unwittingly murdering her innocent daughter.
posted by Snarl Furillo (8 comments total) 1 user marked this as a favorite
 
I legit just want to know if any of you guys know why Benjamin and his* vessel were so into arcade games.

*I also in general want to know why the angels have genders at all, but I don't want to know the show's answer to that question. I don't want to know that at all.
posted by Snarl Furillo at 1:52 AM on February 8, 2017


Apparently I forgot that all the angels lost their wings. When did that happen? Was it when Metatron cast that spell from the Angel Tablet and kicked all angels out of Heaven? (Oh wait, did Metatron cast that or was it Crowley?)
posted by numaner at 8:43 AM on February 9, 2017


I got lost in the wiki but did find the info. They fell from Heaven because Metatron used the angel tablet to create a spell that banished all angels (with Castiel's grace as one of the components), and after that they all lost their wings.
posted by numaner at 9:22 AM on February 9, 2017


I'd forgotten all the angels had lost their wings after the expulsion from heaven. It helps keep with why they're more keen to stay in Heaven than venture out.

My guess on Benjamin and his vessel was that it was a nod to Benjamin doing something for his vessel, but it wasn't very well laid out.

Overall, I generally enjoyed the episode, even if it played up angels are jerks to 11. I really liked how they stood in formation outside the house in the flashback rather than just bunched up. It reflected the angels' desire for order, which is exactly why they were there (or so they believed).

I'm scared they're setting up a farewell to Castiel with the current storyline. NO TAKEY MISHA.

I have to say, I really enjoy this show so much more that they have buried the Sam vs Dean angst that colored a significant portion of the show's seasons prior to the last two. The show was built on the Winchesters being a family and having their pseudo family. It's reconnected to that premise and it just underlines every episode with a touch of goodness.
posted by Atreides at 7:37 AM on February 10, 2017


I like this episode more than most of the recent ones, and I'm in favor of more Alicia Witt on my TV in general. She needs to come back and be the WInchesters' new full-time partner. She obviously has the skills for the job.
posted by Pater Aletheias at 7:52 AM on February 10, 2017


Is the title of this episode referring to an existing title of an existing work? Or is it completely original and just very well-crafted?
posted by rhiannonstone at 10:48 AM on February 11, 2017


I have to say, I really enjoy this show so much more that they have buried the Sam vs Dean angst that colored a significant portion of the show's seasons prior to the last two. The show was built on the Winchesters being a family and having their pseudo family. It's reconnected to that premise and it just underlines every episode with a touch of goodness.

YES. I feel like having more emphasis on supporting characters helps with this. I feel like they were using the brother drama/lying/keeping secrets to fill in the gaps in the monster-of-the-week episodes. Which makes sense up to a point: it's an old show-there's only so much we can learn about Sam and Dean's backstory that hasn't already been covered. Supernatural seemed to love to burn through its supporting cast and maybe (hopefully) they're finally slowing it down....

but I started to worry about Cas too after this episode. Usually the show doesn't pay so much attention to him other than for purely plot purposes. I hope not! Show would feel empty without him. Lily was great and I wouldn't mind her returning (and it seems like she might?), but leave Cas alone!!
posted by eeek at 5:23 PM on February 11, 2017 [2 favorites]


So... is coverage of this show kaput?
posted by Ursula Hitler at 12:48 AM on March 7, 2017


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